Headlight switch electrical problem

Tiny
JKS1994
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  • 1994 JEEP CHEROKEE
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Suddenly, my headlights stopped working. Running (amber) lights were fine, I could hold the brights on, but when I released the handle (on the column), the lights went back off. Also, the handle does click, as it would when switching from high to low beams.

The number five fuse is not blown (which in my vehicle is a thirty, not sure that is appropriate). Thanks to my neighbor who reminded me to unplug the battery.

There is a melted black spot on the base of the headlight port (marked "H").

Got a new switch, but it is missing what appears to be a port (marked U on the old switch) for the ground line (at the end of the switch body). My guess is it is a ground line because it is attached to the metal part of the switch body.

There are also two new ports (in an "L" configuration) on the underside of the new switch (by the push button that releases the light switch pull handle).

Is the first one a "ground" and does it matter? Or do I need to solder it to the metal part of the switch? NAPA shop clerk says this is the right switch.

Do the new ports matter?

Pictures are attached (two with the original switch and two with the new), any help would be appreciated.
Sunday, October 29th, 2017 AT 8:27 AM

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Tiny
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There are two versions of this circuit, and neither shows a ground wire for the head light switch. There is not anything in the switch that needs to be grounded for it to work. What is more likely, if there actually was a wire plugged into that terminal, is it is for some other circuit. If the switch is bolted to a metal part of the dash, that ground terminal is there to provide a convenient place to run that ground wire. The wire could be the ground wire for a light above the switch, or for something else in that area. If that is the case, it is the wire that needs to be grounded, not the terminal on the switch. The easiest may be to extend the wire, then bolt it to a metal part of the dash or firewall.

The extra two terminals appear to be for the dash light rheostat. It looks like they are for a different version, possibly for a vehicle that uses the newer "pulse-width-dimming" circuit. By making the new switch compatible with either system, they only have to manufacture and stock one part number to cover a lot more applications. You just use the part that is appropriate for your vehicle.

You have a more pressing concern with this repair. That is the terminal in the connector. Most commonly this problem is caused by the high current flowing through the switch, and the arcing between the contacts when the switch is turned off. That arcing causes the contacts to develop a little resistance. That resistance causes heat to build up, and that heat causes more resistance to form. It is a vicious circle once it starts, and that heat migrates out to the two terminals in the connector. You have a situation with a head light switch because it has a built-in thermal circuit breaker. The heat will stop transferring at that circuit breaker and won't make it all the way to that terminal, (that is terminal "B1"). Double check B1, but it should be okay. If this was a heater fan switch or an ignition switch, you would have found two blackened terminals.

You are going to have this same problem very shortly unless you also replace the blackened terminal in the connector. The easiest way to do that is to cut away the melted part of the body, plug the connector in that way, then plug in the replacement terminal individually. You are going to find that wire is hardened for about the first four inches, from being hot. Cut that four inch away because solder won't adhere to it. Splice in a new four inch section of the same diameter, solder it, and seal it with heat-shrink tubing. Never use electrical tape in a car because it will unravel into a gooey mess on a hot day.

Crimp on a universal crimp-type terminal to the wire, and solder it for a solid connection. Squeeze the terminal a little to insure it makes a solid electrical connection. Plug that in through the hole you made when you cut the melted part of the connector body away.

Heat build-up in the contacts is the most common cause of this problem, but that resistance and the resulting heat build-up can occur between two mating terminals in the connector too. Once the heat build-up starts, it causes resistance to increase, which creates more heat, and more resistance, until the terminals overheat and become blackened. If you just replace the switch, the head lights will usually work for a little while, but the problem will occur again if that terminal is not replaced.
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Sunday, October 29th, 2017 AT 2:39 PM
Tiny
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I understand. I installed the new switch, plugging the "U" connector into the new port that is mounted on the metal plate. The result is that the lights do not work at all (now the amber lights are out as well as the dome light will not come on, however, it works when the door is open).

You are also right about the receiving terminal, when I checked it, I found that the "H" is also burned.

As it turns out, the cable to the terminal is so short, the only access I have to it is upside down, with my shoulders on the drivers seat (head jammed into the brake pedal). At this point, I am not certain my back can handle another try. Since there is a Chrysler mark on the old switch, I wonder it has been repaired previously (shortening the cable).

It looks like the garage will have to do it for me.

Thank you for your quick response, I do appreciate your help!
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Sunday, October 29th, 2017 AT 4:51 PM
Tiny
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You are welcome. Please let us know how you make out.
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Sunday, October 29th, 2017 AT 5:41 PM
Tiny
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As luck would have it, when I plugged it in, I did not make a good contact (thanks to two broken thumbs from my last year in the Navy). I asked them to replace the harness, but they do not do that kind of thing. Suggested taking it to a dealer and perhaps a junk yard for the harness. They normally charge $100.00 for diagnostics, but I gave them the information you gave me and got out of there for $50.00.

Dome light only works when you open the door, but the headlights and running lights are working. Based on other comments on this page, I think that is minor!

Thanks!
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Monday, October 30th, 2017 AT 9:58 AM

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