My engine is hard starting

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I have a 1999 chevy 2500 with U motor. I just replaced the in tank fuel pump and also the fuel filter after I started to have starting problems and then it seemed to run sluggishly under load and just now 1200 miles from home, I just barely got it to my brother's house with lots of popping and no power. I have gotten two incidences of low oil level requiring adding 2 quarts of oil. I do get a smell of oil when it does start (usually 3 to 4 cranks). I don't want to get stranded and I don't want the expense of a dealership if I can help it. I am stranded and need a response quickly. I am standing by at the computer now.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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Do this find the fuel pump relay start the truck and then remove the fuel pump relay tell me what happened.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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Starter engine (two cranks) removed fp relay and enginer stallled. Swapped out a/c relay, isolated O2 sensors. I am getting a little ticking sound that appears to come from the front of the engine and is engine speed dependent.

Also, can the fuel pressure regulator when failing or failed produce the same hard starting symptoms due to not holding fuel in the fuel rails and if failed would operation of the engine become sluggish w/o power (liken to fuel starvation).
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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When you turn key to run do you hear the fuel pump? If so check the fuel pressure and comeback with the readings.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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I do hear the pump running and also I get spray of fuel from fuel port (need to get a pressure gage?) To get exact number.

A local chevy tech suggested that the fuel pressure regulator may be suspect. There is vacumn supply to it, but he suggested that it may be responsible for allowing fuel in the fuel racks to drain back to the fuel tank and have to be recharged before starting. Comments, please
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When I turn over the engine on my 99 silverado, it usally takes a few seconds to start, and when it does, it slowly chuggs up to the idle speed, almost as if it wasnt getting any gas. I have recently replaced the fuel pump and filter, done a fuel intake cleaning service, changed the air filter, cleaned the intake manifold at the butterfly valve, changed the spark plugs. And yet it still has this problem. Im not sure if its a problem with the fuel injectors, or mabey the computor. But once its started and at idle speed, it drives just fine, every once in a while when I come to a stop, the idle drops down but then chuggs its way back up. Any idea of what the problem might be?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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Check the idle air control valve, throttle position and coolant temperature sensors by using the repair manual
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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Also check the mass air flow sensor, if it is going bad it won't read the correct air intake and you won't be getting enough fuel into the motor.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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If the truck sits for a few hours it takes longer than normal to start. If I drive the truck for a while shut it off and then start it again it will fire right up. Any suggestions?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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What it sounds like you are describing is an extended crank. Most often the cause of this is a failed check valve in the fuel system(pump), which is allowing fuel pressure to bleed down over time. The extended crank is a result of the pump having to build pressure from zero, to a range where the engine will fire. You can test this theory by cycling the key on a few times, 15-30 seconds apart. This will provide a few 2 second cycles of the pump to build rail pressure. It most likely will not have the extended crank after this. To correct it, replace the fuel pump, and also the filter if it has been some time.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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If I cycle the key 3 times as described the truck will fire right up. We replaced the fuel filter the other day and after sitting all night the truck fired right up in the morning. After the truck sat again for 4 hours it had the extended crank again. Just making sure there arent any more possibilities before I replace the fuel pump
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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To be more accurate on the diagnosis, you would need to install a fuel pressure gauge. This would certainly confirm what is suspect at this point.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:18 PM (Merged)
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Need to crank engine six to eight times before will start. Also, sometimes come out and battery is drained. Once I was told horn was going off constantly for hours until stopped. Because battery was drained. Disconnected horn and relay.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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Good morning.

When it does not start, you need to check a couple of things.

See if it has spark.
Can you hear the fuel pump run?

It could be a bad fuel pump where the check valve is bleeding back and not allowing fuel pressure to build.
It could also be a bad crank sensor as well.

Roy
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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Fuel pump runs. Not sure about spark. But always seems to start after six to eight cranks.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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Okay, I would still check the actual fuel pressure. There is an access port in the fuel rail back by the distributor. If you do not have a tester, you can rent one at a parts store. Need to verify if correct pressure is being produced by the pump.

On the dash, you have a tachometer that measures engine speed. When you crank the engine, does the needle move up a little while cranking?

Roy
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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I have checked that port by pushing down on relief valve and fuel shot out immediately. But I probably still need to check pressure. Also, I just went out to see if tachometer moved while cranking and of course it started first crank.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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Yep, you need to do the testing when it will not start.

Roy
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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Where and what does the crank sensor do?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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The crank sensor is in the oil pan.

It sends a signal to the PCM that the engine is turning and commands the ignition system and fuel system to turn on.

Roy
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