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Power windows stopped working

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RON MARCELLUS
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Electrical problem
2003 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

My son has my old explorer the pass. Side power window stop working. Only would go down. I replced the window motor along with the cables. Still does not work. In trying to move the window brackets up to attach bolts. We powered up, and the problem is still the original issue, the window only goes down. What to do next? Thanks Ron
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Saturday, June 6th, 2020 AT 11:35 AM (Merged)
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Ron I will send testing info via email, also in addition to the tests, look in the rubber conduit for a broken wire, this is pretty common.


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Pinpoint Test J: Single Power Window Is Inoperative - Passenger Front Window

Normal Operation
Under normal operation the passenger front window control switch receives power from the driver window control switch through circuit 170 (RD/LB). The passenger front window control switch provides power to the power window motor through circuit 334 (RD/YE) and ground through 333 (YE/RD) to operate the passenger front window down, and power through circuit 333 (YE/RD) and ground through 334 (RD/YE) to operate the passenger front window up.
When operating the passenger front window using the driver window control switch, power is sent to the passenger front window control switch through circuit 314 (TN/LB) and ground through 313 (WH/YE) to operate the passenger front window down, and power through circuit 313 (WH/YE) and ground through 314 (TN/LB) to operate the passenger front window up.

Possible Causes
à   Open in circuits 170 (RD/LB), 313 (WH/YE), 314 (TN/LB), 333 (YE/RD) or 334 (RD/YE).
à   Inoperative driver window control switch.
à   Inoperative passenger front window control switch.
à   Inoperative passenger front window motor.
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Saturday, June 6th, 2020 AT 11:35 AM (Merged)
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RON MARCELLUS
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If I can not check voltages because no equipment. If the passenger swith is bad, would it allow the window to go down only? And not to go up? If this is the problem, would the driver side switch still perform as normal and allow operation of the passenger side window to go up and down? The price of the new passenger switch is cheap, and I would replace it this could be problem. Thanks Ron
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Saturday, June 6th, 2020 AT 11:35 AM (Merged)
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A tester can be had for 10-15 dollars at radio shack, I don't recommend just throwing parts at the problem, My experience has been either broken wires, especially true if it will not go up from either switch, or a bad switch if it wont go up from just the passenger switch.
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RON MARCELLUS
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I tried each switch to see if that was problem. I have a small tester and tested the master switch at drivers side. Only one wire was hot out of the 6 is that correct? I tried to look at the wiring in boots but could not tell. Any other ideas? Thanks Ron
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Driver's side wiring in the boot is usually where the wires break, it's the most used door and the wires bend each time it's opened and closed, I pull the boot out of the body, then push it into the door to check these wires, Door trim panel MUST be removed to allow you to put the boot back in place.
I sent a wiring test proceedure, so check the UP wires for power at the Passenger door while operating the driver's door master switch. These switches are now made in mexico and have a high failure rate. Ford dealers keep plenty of them in stock. However, I test the wires BEFORE switch replacement.
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Passenger side window goes down but won't go up. I do have power at the connector that goes to the motor in the up and down position. Any ideas.
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How about ground. It requires both to complete the circuit and the swap to change direction.
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I will check that. Thank you so much.
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Check both door and master switches, you may be able to swap a door switch to check that side of the circuit.
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My ford explorers passenger window stopped working from door and from master control on drivers door. Then a month later all windows stopped working checked breaker and fuses tested ok. Looking for tips on what problem could be or where to check for power. Please advise asap
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Check for up and down commands from the door switch. If you have them, then the motor/regulator assembly is bad. If not, then you have a wiring issue

Roy
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My power windows not working
buttons do not light up and do not open windows.
My sunroof power is still working.

Are there any other fuses that I could check
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Check the fuses under the dash. IF they are good, remove the driver's door panel and check to see if there is power to the main switch.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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