Engine shuts off after 15.5 seconds

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P.S. On the left side of the glov box there is a screw with a string connected. Do I need to remove that screw and string assembly?
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Monday, June 17th, 2019 AT 10:44 AM
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I think so. Here are institutions and diagrams to help you get the glove box out. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find.
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Monday, June 17th, 2019 AT 11:27 AM
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I have some new test results, and I am thinking it may change your thoughts about a bad ECM. I started the car 5 times and each time it turned off at 15.5 seconds. The sixth time I decided to try something different, that is, I revved the engine to 2500 RPM before 15.5 seconds, the engine kept running. I held it at 2500 for 2 minutes, at one minute the check engine light began flashing. Normal engine temp was achieved around 8 minutes and I let it back to idle, where it ran at about 950 RPM. I then revved it to 3800-4K RPM at 11 minutes, then let it come back to idle where it ran at about 700 RPM. I turned off with the key at 13 minutes. Ran the codes and got: P1135, P 1155, P0302, P0305 and P0301. Started engine again, cleared codes while engine was running, then a minute later engine light flashed again and got these codes and read them with engine running: P0300, P0301, P0305 and P0402 (EGR flow excessive.) Ran engine until 2.5 minutes and shut engine off with key. Does this give any better insight? New thoughts?
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Tuesday, June 18th, 2019 AT 10:39 AM
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It sounds like the ECM is bad I would try a used or rebuilt unit. You said you disconnected the O2 sensors correct? If so the ECM is next.
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Tuesday, June 18th, 2019 AT 12:32 PM
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For the thirteen minutes the engine ran above, the O2s were connected, (as was everything.) Should I try to repeat all that with them both disconnected?
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Tuesday, June 18th, 2019 AT 1:05 PM
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Yes please do. It sounds like one of the heaters is shorting out.
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Thursday, June 20th, 2019 AT 10:59 AM
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I Disconnected O2s, engine light flashed at 8 seconds, got past the 15.5 second mark, idled for 2 min. At 1100 RPM, then revved to 2000 RPM for one min. Then to 2600 for one min. Then to 2800 for one minute. Cleared codes with engine running, got 1135, 1455, 0302, 0301, 03015, 0402, EGR excessive flow detected, and 1410. Pretty much same results with O2s dangling. I do think there are misfires as at idle there is a slight shake to the engine. But at least it is able to run past the 15.5 second mark. Should I still try the replacement ECM? Is the EGR bad or can it be cleaned? What exactly is an excessive EGR flow?
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Thursday, June 20th, 2019 AT 11:14 PM
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Plug the O2 back in and unplug the EGR valve and redo the test.
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Friday, June 21st, 2019 AT 2:02 PM
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Okay, disconnected EGR, started right up, ran past the fifteen second mark. Around two minutes the engine light began flashing. Warmed it up to operating temp. Kept RPM's at 2,500 for a few minutes. Idled at 800, sounds like a miss from tailpipe at idle, can't tell so much at the higher RPM. Codes were: 0300,0301,0305, 1130, and 1410. Kept running total of nine minutes. Turned car off with key, gave engine a rest for ten minutes, cleared codes, reconnected EGR, about two minutes engine light flashed again. Rechecked codes and got: 0300,0301, 0305, 0402 and 1140.
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 8:35 AM
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P.S. Just noticed a typo in the last message, the last code is 1130, not 1140.
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Monday, June 24th, 2019 AT 8:12 AM
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So it ran okay with the EGR disconnected? Don't worry about the codes right now.
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Monday, June 24th, 2019 AT 9:56 AM
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If by okay, you mean it ran past fifteen seconds, then yes, but did appear to be slightly uneven.
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Tuesday, June 25th, 2019 AT 12:45 AM
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The code is for the air/fuel sensor still and you said you replaced it or? If not start there and if that doesn't fix it I would try a used/rebuilt ECU here is the location. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find.
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Tuesday, June 25th, 2019 AT 11:47 AM
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When you say air/fuel sensor, are you referring to the O2s? I didn't change any as we were doing these tests. Is bank 1 the side closer to the firewall?
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Tuesday, June 25th, 2019 AT 1:37 PM
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Here is the oxygen sensor locations and a guide to walk you through the replacement.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-an-oxygen-sensor

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Wednesday, June 26th, 2019 AT 10:09 AM
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Update: Things went from bad to worse: The OBD reader suddenly "failed to link with vehicle" and the car stopped starting at all, cranks, but no spark. I took a break these past months. Here we are now: tested crank sensor voltage. I only got.77 volts at the ECU black/red wire (to crank sensor) and at the crank sensor socket only got.77 volts. Then,
I swapped the ECU with a used one and here are the results: only got.77 volts at the black/red wire at the crank sensor, the first time, then I couldn't repeat that rending at sensor. I also got the.77 volts at the ECU black/red wire, still not the 5 volts needed. In other words, the same readings as with the other ECU. Now what? Still fails to link to OBD reader.
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Monday, December 30th, 2019 AT 9:57 AM
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Have you checked the EFI and main relay? here is a guide to help and the location of the relay. Also the security light is not flashing correct?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find.
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Monday, December 30th, 2019 AT 5:33 PM

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