Cooling fans will not turn on

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HARRY P
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I would suspect a bad engine coolant temperature sensor and possibly a stuck thermostat. That sensor sends a signal to the computer which the computer uses to judge when to turn on the fan(s). The thermostat could have gotten stuck after the car overheated, as sometimes the shaft of a thermostat will bend when the car overheats, causing to be stuck in place.

I am attaching Toyota's instructions on how to test the coolant temperature sensor in the images below. You will need a multi-meter or ohmmeter for this. A decent multi-meter can be bought for $15.00 to $20.00 (last I checked, at least). You will need to set it to Ohms and go from there as outlined below.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:41 PM (Merged)
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Thanks Heyman1140 for your response. I already replaced the thermostat and ran the car for forty five minutes it ran fine, fans came on and off okay with AC in on and off settings. Thanks again.
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HARRY P
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Oh that is great. I am glad it was a simple fix for you. Please feel free to come back any time.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:41 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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1993 Toyota Camry 2.2L. When I disconnect the temp switch on the bottom of radiator the fans won't run it has to be unplugged and then the both run on high it sounds like.I have checked all the relays that are for the fans and there OK. The fuses also look all right.I have to get it smogged now so I have to trouble shoot this problem fast. So if anyone knows anything I could do now please let me know. Thank You
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:41 PM (Merged)
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HOMER1967
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It is normal for the fans to run on high when the cooling fan switch at the bottom of the radiator is unplugged, does the switch screw into an aluminum adapter that screws into the radiator? If so try to remove the adapter and screw the switch directly into the radiator. The adapter insulates the switch to much and can cause your symptoms. Also on this car the coolant temperature switch is on the downstream side of the thermostat and a faulty or stuck thermostat could cause this issue to because the hot coolant can't get to the sensor.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:41 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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Thank You for answering my problem. I don't think it has got hot enough to even open the switch, I put a 180 thermostat in it maybe it needs a 210 something like that I understand it has to be 200 or better to open the temp switch
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:41 PM (Merged)
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Your welcome and yes I think the 180 may be to cold. Let me know how it works out.
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RANDY SHARP
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I have had a problem with my cooling fans on my car. The sensor that is in the bottom of the radiator I have two different operational theorys, is the sensor when the coolant in your vehicle gets hotter is there suppose to be resistance in when it gets hot or cold, does somebody know for sure a right answer I would appreciate it. And about the relays when testing them I did not know they had two different types normally closed, normally open one will have continuity when power is applied one will not.I would appreciate any help. If the car is not getting hot enough to open the sensor I should get a higher temp sensor maybe a 210 would that make sense.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:42 PM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Two different system is used by Toyota for their vehicles where cooling fan circuits are concerned. For the cooling switch attached to the bottom of radiator, the sensor is open and when heat increases, the switch contacts to make a complete circuit.

The other type utilises a switch near the thermostat housing and this switch is closed all the time until the correct temperature is achieved whereby it would open the circuit causing the relay to start the cooling fans.

Both system uses different types of relays so make sure you get the correct relay.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:42 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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I have posted this problem before but since then I have put a new switch on the radiator, new sending unit on motor, and I got a almost brand new radiator still not working.I was reading a article on 4 terminal relays and it said check one of terminals check continuity to ground, and I am talking about where the relays plug into in the distribution box can someone tell me what that means am I suppose to have continuity there or not and I think they was talking about terminal 3. So what does that mean and how many volts should there be in the other ones.
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I t means you take an ohm meter and probe where the terminals go into box and one on ground and see if you have continuity or the ohm meter should go to zero. See pics then after checking this go to repair/electrical how to check a relay on our site. If that doesn't fix it take to a pro because I may be beyond your ability.
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It was the relay thank you
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You are welcome
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RANDY SHARP
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I have posted this problem recently. My cooling fans don't come on I have the temperature sensor unplugged, so they work when you plug it in they quit.I have bought a the sensor that goes in bottom of the radiator and the one that is on the motor. So does anybody have any other idea's that could possibly be wrong ;I have checked the relays and they were OK;What else could it be?Thank You
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:43 PM (Merged)
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Unplugging that sensor is a really bad idea. That will cause your fuel mixture to go full rich.

The fan circuit is pretty complicated with 3 separate relays so you need someone with electrical knowledge to troubleshoot it for you.

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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:43 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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Thank You for the schematic the sensor that I have unplugged is the one at the bottom of the radiator
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WRENCHTECH
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Unplugging that won't make the fan come on. Grounding that wire should put it on.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:43 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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Hey I really appreciate the help. You said grounding a wire will more or less fix the problem, what wire do I ground?And again thanks so much my smog is due I have till the end of the month but with these fans running on high that might make a difference but I need to get them fixed anyway
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:43 PM (Merged)
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RANDY SHARP
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Let me add something else but that is why the fans are running now I have that switch unplugged, when I plug it in they stop.I still need to drive.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 12:43 PM (Merged)
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The switch in the radiator works by supplying trigger ground to the relay and turning the fan on. It should be inoperative when unplugged.
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