Air conditioner compressor is not turning on relay?

Tiny
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I have searched all over the truck cant find it?
Thursday, July 16th, 2009 AT 11:54 AM

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Tiny
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It is in the underhood fuse block..Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/261618_Noname_688.jpg

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Thursday, July 16th, 2009 AT 12:14 PM
Tiny
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I have replaced the compressor, , the relay, and all switches. The pressure is right all was charged when I replaced compressor. I can jump the relay the compressor will come on. But what's keeping it from working? I've got 5 volts at the low and hi pressure switches. I'm lost.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good afternoon,

I attached a wiring diagram. Please check for 2 powers to the AC relay with the key on.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Let us make sure there is voltage at the relay.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, I have 12 volts at terminal 87. And with the key on terminal 85 is hot. Like I said I can jump the relay at 87 and 30 the compressor comes on. Unless the wire from the compressor is broke.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Okay, you have power at 30. 87 goes to the compressor.

The ECM grounds the control side of the relay or terminal 86. It will ground it and activate the compressor once it sees the correct signal from the sensor for high and low sides.

Did you try jumping the low side pressure sensor and see if the compressor comes on?

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Yes sir, I have jumped the low side and the hi side I even jumped them both at the same time. I gave terminal 86 a ground and the compressor comes on but is not cycling. Well, maybe i'm wrong here I put my gauges back on the truck and it's reading low side 65 psi and hi side reads 75 psi but it is 48 degrees here.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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The ECM is not grounding it.

Do you have a scan tool that can monitor the AC switches?

We are getting close to the ECM being the issue.

Pin 86 goes to the ECM. You need to see if the ECM is seeing the proper signals before condemning the ECM.

You need to check for voltage at the wires I circled on the red connector at the ECM for power.

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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All is good except A/C button light comes on but does run ground to A/C relay pin #87 and I cannot find a wiring diagram that shows the button circuit.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Hello, I'm Danny.

Here is a tutorial on how to test wiring:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

I've attached the wiring diagram you requested below.Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.

Danny-
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, I have checked the power at the pins on the PCM. 11 pin has 9 volts, 17 pin has 5 volts, 43 has 12 volts and 55 has 9 volts. This with the key on and A/C on.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Okay, those are signals and they are getting there. The ECM is not grounding the relay even with the signals.

Looks like you need an ECM.

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks for the info. I have changed the ECM this mourning. Same thing. So now what?
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Did you check the dark green/white wire for power. That is from the relay and what needs to be grounded.

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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes sir with the key on it has power but when I give it a ground the compressor comes on but does not cycle.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Inside control panel only works on high setting, but when I turn on A/C compressor doesn't come on at all. Only tried jumping compressor with hot wire clutch engages. Checked plugs from clutch, low pressure switch with test light an got nothing. #12 fuse good. Would the resistor keep compressor from getting power? What's wrong and how to fix?
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good evening,

I attached a wiring diagram for you to view. Make sure you test all the fuses in the diagram for power on both sides. This is a power test, not a visual test.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

The ECM supplies power to the low and high pressure switches as shown in the diagram.

Recheck the voltage with the key on and the A/C request on.

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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I am not worried about cycling.

For some reason, the ECM is seeing the signals but not commanding the compressor on by grounding that wire.

How much voltage is at that wire?

Roy
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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That is, will let you know the outcome.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Okay, with the key on A/C on the green and white wire to pin 86 has 13 volts on it, but when I give it a ground the compressor kicks on.
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Friday, April 30th, 2021 AT 4:33 PM (Merged)
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Okay, good.

Keep me updated.

Roy
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