Brake light stay on?

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COURTNEY M. NICKERSON
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Has anyone found a permanent fix for this issue? I've been dealing with this in my 2010 Malibu. Brake lights on while driving, off while braking and then back on when brake is fully compressed to the floor. ESC and traction control lights generally come on while brake light issue is going on (but not always). If cruise is on it will disengage and not allow cruise to be set again while brake lights are messing up.

Things I've tried:

Had the recall done at the dealership (bcm harness and dielectric lubricant). It worked for a moment, then came back within days. Tried to take it back to have them do it again but they wanted to start charging me and said GM would only pay for the recall once.

Had a mechanic friend also do the recall following the tsb several more times over the course of several months. It would work for a bit and come back.

Replaced brake switch and recall fix again. Problem came back again.

I haven't driven the car in over a year because I'm so afraid I'll get rear ended. I'm fed up with it. Just a piece of junk sitting in my driveway that isn't safe to drive anywhere. Just patiently waiting for someone to finally discover what solves this issue once and for all.
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STEVE W.
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Looking at the TSB and recall for this they don't actually replace anything, just add a spacer and some grease. I suspect that it recurs because the wires are corroding inside the crimped area inside of the connector body itself, or inside the wires between the brake pedal position sensor and the body control module. However neither the TSB nor recall replace the wiring section which is probably the root cause of the problem.

The system on the 04 and up are different than the earlier cars. Up until late 03 they used a simple on/off switch. On the 04 and up they used what is basically a potentiometer that sends a variable voltage signal to the BCM instead of just on or off. Almost the same as the gas pedal does to control the throttle. They did this to enable the airbags and ABS as well as traction control to determine how hard the brakes are being applied not just if they are.

As to a repair. I would try escalating the issue up the line to GM directly 1-800-222-1020. Tell them that the dealer has done the recall and it didn't work, as well as the other repair attempts and that you are scared to drive it because of this issue. See what they are willing to do about it.

The other option would be to replace the wiring between the BCM and the brake position sensor by removing the existing connection pins at both ends and replacing them with new. The recall says to check the pin fitment and repair as required, it is more likely that they apply the grease and spacer, stuff it back together and call it done. The repair may work on cars that don't have a bad problem, but if it is corroded or the connections are already damaged I doubt it would do much. Replacement with new connector pins and wire should work as you have had the other repairs work temporarily. Perhaps the mechanic you know could do that.
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TRESSIE HAYTER
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Hi I was wondering what is wrong with my car I have took it to a lot of places and they all say nothing is wrong. My brake light stay on when i'm driving. They keep telling me not to drive with two feet but I dont drive with two feet. They are on all the time when I tap the drake it goes off for a second then its back on. So I dont know whta to do please help.
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MHPAUTOS
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Hi there,

I would be replacing the brake light switch which is mounted on the top of the brake pedal under the dash.

Mark (mhpautos)
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POSTWICK
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I have the same problem but I see no switch at the top of the brake pedal. There is only a round white switch to the left of the brake pedal lever, that is turned by a metal rod that sticks about 6 inches off the left side of the brake pedal lever.
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CHALL52
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Yes that is your brake switch. I've replaced mine and it did not fix it.

If you found a fix please let me know, if not keep an eye on my post. As soon as I find the fix I will let everyone know.

Chris (chall52)
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LEADO
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Brake lights stay on unless you push pedal hard then lights go off and push a little bit more lights come on again.
Replaced brake sensor switch(some refer as brake switch.)
Brake pads are good and do not have any braking problem that I know about. Jim
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LEADO
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I found the problem. Theres a black electonic module located on top of the transmission with a white plug. I removed blue lock pin, pulled gray lock to let plug to be pulled out of black module. Didn't see anything but sprayed with silicone spray and reconnected everything. Most have been moisture or water in connector. Fixxxxxxxed.

Plug can be seen with hood up. And from looking from drivers fender down between fuse box cover and fire wall. Hope this helps somebody. Jim
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RMYERS
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Have a 2006 malibu and have replaced the brake position sensor but the brake lights still stay on. Is there an adjustment to be made or do I have another problem?
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RHALL77
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Are you sure the brake switch is adjusted correctly
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NO KNOWLEDGE
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Someone riding behind me told me that my brake lights stayed on, but when I put the brakes on, the brake lights went out. I tried it a couple of times when the car was in park, but iddling; it would work right a couple of times, but then would stop. What could the problem be?
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Chances are the brake light switch on the peda (at top) is either out of adjustment or bad. Check it to see if it is loose or out of adjustment.
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SILENTBUTDEADLY
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I have a problem with my brake lights. They come on without the pedal being pressed down. I have been on the internet and found some info on it. I replaced the sensor switch but did not adjust it(not sure if that's the problem) I also took the center console apart and took the bcm off and put the special grease on it but very very little. Hooked it back up fine for a week then all over again. I took it to a mechanic who ran diagnostics on it and said I need a new bcm. I can get a used one, but not sure if that is the solution. I guess I'm gonna try to unplug, plug, unplug, plug and put more grease on it. This is soo annoying. Any guidance would be great!
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BMRFIXIT
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Should start with the switch on the brake pedal 1st
it should be all you need and make sure it is adjusted
if light staying on
if light on and some not
check if 3rd light on when other out and if so check multifunction switch
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SILENTBUTDEADLY
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I have no idea how to adjust the brake sensor if that is what your telling me to do. Any direction would be great. Also when I did the BCM the first time I dont hink I put enough grease I also didnt plug it in and un plug a couple of times to get the grease in there which is why I'm gonna do it a second time. Why would the mechanic hook it up to the computer and say I need a new BCM or show me a place to get used and do it myself? Could that be the problem? Yes all the brake lights are lighting up when I press the brake in and also when it does it on it's own.
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SUEMON13
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Computer problem
2006 Chevy Malibu 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive 95,000 miles

Hi I am having stange issues with my car,
1. When I fill the car the gas gage goes to empty 2 or 3 times then it stops.
2. My brake lights are on even when I don't put the breaks on.
3. When I try to start my car it won't get out of park for at least 5 minutes after continuing starting my car.
4. Humming noice

can you give me a clue of what may be wrong?

Thanks!
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HMAC300
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For the gas guage it may be just the float getting knocked around in the tank. The brake lights, disconnect a brake light bulb one at a time and see if the other goes out as it may be a bad bulb. Make sure your brake is aplied before shifting out of gear, but you may have a problem with your abits holding the gear in park. And the humming noise have a pro check that out. That is hard to diagnose on here.
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EVANWESTEN
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When starting the car with my foot on the brake, get a low rumbling sound from the brake pedal, cannot put the car into gear unless I push down VERY HARD on the brake pedal and the brake lights stay on. Have had the the brake light switch replaced. The brake lights still stay on ! ! Garage has checked several times times, cannot find problem.
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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There is a technical service bulletin (TSB) on this common issue..not sure why garage would not have checked that..

the most likely cause of the condition is high resistance due to terminal fretting corrosion in the body control module (BCM) C2 connector (specifically pins C2-18, C2-31 and C2-59).

the correction is described below..


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/261618_Noname_2525.jpg

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KEAUNA9
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When I start my car the brake lights go on and stay on. I have had it in the shop several times, they replaced brake switch which did nothing, I don't know what else to do as I am afraid I am going to have an accident as no one knows when I am really stopping. If I slightly brake they go out, so my only alternative is to drive with my foot on the brake. Any suggestions?
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