Daytime Running Lights

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SLYMMDOGG
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When I put the car in gear the daytime running lights flash and go out and then the service light comes on. Then there are no lo-beams only hi-beams. Is there a fuse or something that needs to be replaced or is it the wiring?
Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 AT 10:34 AM

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Problem fixed! The headlight wires are corroded and BOTH headlights lost the ground, so the circuit is open. The wire harness runs in front of the radiator. Pull off the cowl as if changing your headlight bulbs. Then inspect the wire harness for corrosion (green-blue grainy spots). Repair the corroded wire by cutting out the corroded part and bridging the gap with a new piece of wire.
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Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 AT 11:49 AM
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LORETTA MIRES
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Daytime running lights and bright lights wont work on 2002 chevy cavalier
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:11 PM (Merged)
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Inspect and test fog fuse and fog lamp relay and also the left headlamp fuse and DRL relay- could also be a BCM problem
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:11 PM (Merged)
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The problem I am having is that every once in awhile when I start my car and disengage the parking brake, my daytime running lights will flicker on and off. Once it stops flickering, the service light comes on. I haven't had the problem for long but every time I take it somewhere to have the error codes read, they tell me they can't find anything.
I know this isn't normal, so I guess my question is. What could it be if there aren't any error codes?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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BRIAN 1
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The problem is a corroded wire or wires at the DRL harness that runs from the headlights across the radiator support. The wiring also runs behind the washer bottle, every time you fill it and it spills it runs down the DRL harness and corrodes the wiring which causes the wire to break and DRLs stop working. This was such a common problem on 96-04 cavaliers. I used to remove the harness and fix every break in the harness, sometimes I would find 6 different breakes in the wiring. I did so many that I would just replace the whole harness, but the down side is the harness is $300.00 dollars. Start by checking the harness from the washer bottle to the headlights, I guarentee you will find the problem. Post back with what you find.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Is there a chance that the daytime running lights on a 2001 Chevy Cavelier (even though they are not working) could be draining power from the battery? I can hear the relay tripping whenever I turn the key to the on position. The lights will flash then go off completely. The service light comes on and that is it. It has been this way for about three months now and this is the first trouble I have had with the battery. Sgt Miller
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Take the car to any auto parts store and have the error codes read.
Sounds like the relay is bad, but check the PCM error codes first.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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I realized last night that my bright lights do not work either. This had to of started the same time that my DRL stopped working. Is this the sign of something else that may be wrong? I have not had the chance to have the Error Codes read yet, but will be doing that in the next couple of days. Could this be something as simple as a fuse being blown?

I am being deployed in about a month to go back overseas for the military and I am trying to get all of this repaired before I leave because my wife has no clue about vehicles. She would have blown the engine long ago if I hadn't told her that you need to have the oil changed every 3,000 miles!
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Yes it could be a blown fuse or relay. Purchase a Haynes manual to track the electrical problems related to your lights.

I would still get the error codes read first.

Thank you for your service to our country. Mmprince
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Hi, my car has a four cylinder, automatic with 96,000 miles. The daytime running lights are not working. When I start the car and put it in gear, the DRL light on the dash comes on and starts flashing and I hear a clicking noise and the headlights flicker off and on. When I turn the switch to headlights, the flashing stops, but my headlights do not turn on. The high-beams work no problem and so do the turn signals, brakes and parking lights. I was trying to replace the DRL sensor, but the one I got from GM does not look like the one that is in there. Any ideas?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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BRIAN.C.OLSEN
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Well, believe it or not, there is a pin-out connector under the battery box (located in the front on the driver's side) that may be corroded. It is attached to the underside, and it is not easy to see without a mirror. If there is corrosion on the battery box, this connector is probably corroded as well.

To me, this is a major safety issue, because all of your lights come into this harness/connector and could go out at any time while driving down the road.

I have a 2002 Cavalier, and I was experiencing the exact same problem with the flickering (when started), non-functional DRL, but my high-beams were not working, while my regular lights did. This was also accompanied by a 'Service' light on the dash. The reason for the DRL going out first, is that the DRL ground wire is the closest to the post-side of the battery, where the acid leaks from. No ground = no lights! Your regular headlights going out along with it is because, for your car (being a 2000), the DRL are run on the regular headlights. Mine, being a 2002, were run on the high-beams.

Now for The Fix:
1. Check the battery box (under the battery) for corrosion. Chances are, it is corroded, batteries leak, it is what they do.

2. Take a small mirror on a stick, and look underneath the battery for the wires running into a black blob. That used to be your front-end light connector/harness (now corroded). If it is intact, stop here.

3. Remove headlight assembly (optional for more work space).

4. Remove Battery and Air Box.

5. Get the connector/harness from under the battery box.

6. Get enough wire for 13-wires in total. 11- 18 gauge wires, and 2- 16 gauge wires (for the main positive and ground). Each wire should be similar in length and about 8"-12" long (so you can avoid putting the wires back under the battery box where they could get damaged again). Color coding is optional, but they are handy if you do not want to get lost.

7. Clip, strip, and connect (I used solder-less connectors) each wire individually if you can to avoid getting them mixed-up. (NOTE: You do not need the connector/harness, and I am really not sure why they even put it in there, but it is the source of the problem as it is easily corroded).

8. Make sure your connections are sealed well and wrap them up/bind them together with electrical tape for extra protection. Snake tubing, although optional, will also help avoid any future problems. Plus, it looks cool.

9. Put everything back where it should be.

and before you know it, it is as good as new!

As an after-thought (to everyone else who reads this):
If it is just your high-beams, low-beams, or DRL that are out (just one), start with the DRL module (in the fuse box). If that is not it, and it is not the DRL, try the multi-function switch (the thing attached to the left of your steering wheel, the headlight switch/cruise control switch). If that is not it, it is probably the problem I have just gone over.


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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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I have a 2000 Cavalier that was doing the same thing. When I put the car in gear the DRL symbol well flash for about eight seconds along with that comes a clicking noise from the DRL relay in the fuse box in side the car. My low beams work fine, but my high beams do not work at all. I replaced the DRL relay (big waste of money) still had the same problem. I cleaned and checked all the grounds and still had the problem. I replaced the head light bulbs ( twice) still had the problem. Then I found this website with this great guy who had the same problem. I followed what he said to do and with no problem my lights works perfect. It was a time consuming process but it is definitely the best fix for this problem. This is a well known problem with Cavaliers and Chevrolet says it is not a defect and does not require a recall. I am here to tell you that is the biggest load I have ever heard. Why the would anyone ever put the wiring harness under the battery and washer fluid fill? They do not want to recall it because it is a $900.00 part plus labor. So I just want to say to all you Cavalier owners with this problem follow this guys directions and your problem well be fixed in no time. Thank you thank you for the help.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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I used the fix described above to replace the corroded connector on my 2000 Cavalier, and it worked great! Fixed the problem completely. I used a slightly heavier gauge of wire for all of them, so I did not use solder-less connectors, but the old-fashioned twist and tape method worked just fine.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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So glad that someone posted about this issue. I too have a 2000 Chevrolet Cavalier that suddenly started having DRL problems. Same as mentioned above. I put the car in gear, DRL symbol starts flashing and "clicking" profusely and the service light comes on, DRL symbol goes out and no lights. Also, no low beam lights.
Taking the car to the garage this evening with this information.
Again, thanks for posting!
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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No DRL lights come on when in drive. When headlights are turned on drivers light is full bright and passenger light is very dim. DRL dash light flashes about 6 times and service light comes on. Bulbs are good. Grounds under battery dish are good. New DRL relay installed. Both headlight fuses are good. Is this a BCM problem?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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BRIAN.C.OLSEN
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Well, believe it or not, there is a pin-out connector under the battery box (located in the front on the driver's side) that may be corroded. It is attached to the underside, and not easy to see without a mirror. If there is corrosion on the battery box, this connector is probably corroded as well.

To me, this is a MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE, because all of your lights come into this harness/connector and could go out at any time while driving down the road.

I have a 2002 Cavalier, and I was experiencing the exact same problem with the flickering (when started), non-functional DRL, but my high-beams were not working, while my regular lights did. This was also accompanied by a 'Service' light on the dash. The reason for the DRL going out first, is that the DRL ground wire is the closest to the post-side of the battery, where the acid leaks from. No ground = no lights!!! Your regular headlights going out along with it is because, for your car (being a 2000), the DRL are run on the regular headlights. Mine, being a 2002, were run on the high-beams.

Now for The Fix:
1. Check the battery box (under the battery) for corrosion. Chances are, it's corroded, batteries leak, it's what they do.

2. Take a small mirror on a stick, and look underneath the battery for the wires running into a black blob. That used to be your front-end light connector/harness (now corroded). If it is intact, stop here.

3. Remove headlight assembly (optional for more workspace).

4. Remove Battery & Air Box.

5. Get the connector/harness from under the battery box.

6. Get enough wire for 13-wires in total. 11- 18 guage wires, and 2- 16 guage wires (for the main positive and ground). Each wire should be similar in length and about 8"-12" long (so you can avoid putting the wires back under the battery box where they could get damaged again). Color coding is optional, but handy if you don't want to get lost.

7. Clip, strip, and connect (I used solderless connectors) each wire individually if you can to avoid getting them mixed-up. (NOTE: You do not need the connector/harness, and I'm REALLY not sure why they even put it in there... but it is the source of the problem as it is easily corroded).

8. Make sure your connections are sealed well and wrap them up/bind them together with electrical tape for extra protection. Snake tubing, although optional, will also help avoid any future problems. Plus, it looks cool.

9. Put everything back where it should be.

...and before you know it, it's as good as new!

As an after-thought (to everyone else who reads this):
If it's just your high-beams, low-beams, or DRL that are out (just one), start with the DRL module (in the fuse box). If that's not it, and it's not the DRL, try the multi-function switch (the thing attached to the left of your steering wheel, the headlight switch/cruise control switch). If that's not it, it's probably the problem I've just gone over.


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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Hey all,

Really hope someone can help me out here. I am having the same problem as the original post and nothing I do to remedy the problem seems to fix anything.

It is not the bulbs, fuses, relay, multi-function switch, grounds or the nine pin connector. I have been almost a year and a half into having no low beams, and I am sick and tired of people flashing their lights at me at night and blinding me out of sheer ignorance to my problem.

My lights used to flash when I locked my car with the remote, and now they do not even do that anyone.

Is there anything else it can be? I just cannot believe that I have had to go through all of this pain and self diagnosis just to find nothing wrong with anything. I cannot afford to have some shop over-charge me for a possible twenty minute fix either.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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One more problem area I encountered.
The emergency brake.
If the emergency brake is part way on or that switch is malfunctioning, the DRLs wont work (normally at all).

VIC

ps. Thanks Brian for all the info. I have 2 cavaliers and my niece has one.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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Hey I have a 2002 Cavalier and I have done so much work to it and I started getting the same kind of problems with lights. If you have power windows underneath the center console switches in my car there is a wire that should be on a connector with one screw. See if that connection is broken, mine was and every time it grounded out you can hear the relay and lights go crazy. That was a problem that drained my battery if I left it without starting it for twenty four hours. If you have any more questions hit me up and I can give you as much information as I can. Hope this helps.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 9:12 PM (Merged)
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BRIAN.C.OLSEN
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Wow, quick feedback VIC! :)

In addition to everything, I forgot to mention that if you run diagnostic on this problem, you will get a 'PASS' code, even though the Service light is on.
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