Engine starting problems

Tiny
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So we tested the fuel pressure and it is fine, we tested it like four times. We bought fuel pressure regulator to see if that will help. Not sure what else to do. Dont think its the fuel pump
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What was the pressure reading?

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Tiny
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It read 70 psi
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Tiny
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You said when you sprayed carb cleaner into the air filter, it did not start? It should for a couple of seconds.

None of this makes sense. You said you have spark, 70 lbs of fuel pressure. It should start.

Does the check engine light come on?

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1999 chevrolet astro van was running fine parked it over nite tried to start it it fired a few times sputtered but no start now it won't even do that it just cranks tried spraying starter fluid into the air intake and nothing
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check for spark?

Get a helper disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine atleast 3/16 away from ground-have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark?

No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs, coil's resistances, cap and rotor, distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors and computer Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it and keep testing.
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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No check engine light doesnt come on, spark plugs are dry, my husband was a mechanic and this one has him baffled.
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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What tells the injectors to spit the fuel out?
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Tiny
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If there is no light, check the fuse for the pcm. It may not be giving any commands.

The pcm turns the injectors on and off based on inputs from other sensors.

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Tiny
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We checked all the fuses in the fuse block and under the dash where all the fuses are and they all light up and have power
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Tiny
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We checked the spider fuel injectors and everything is good and working, and no leaks etc. Not sure what else to do? Could it be the timing? Should we try TDC check?
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Engine Mechanical problem
1999 Chevy Astro 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic 98.000 miles

This morning my wife went out and and she said van tooka few tries before it would start. I wentto work and it started fine. It started fine when I Left work and when I went to the store it was fine. WHen I got back in at the store it wouldn't start. I keep cranking it and it just won't turn over. Any Ideas on what this could be?
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do below -determine what's missing fuel or spark then comeback

Do you have a check engine light On or flashing prior to this problem?

If the engine's condition is in tip top shape-do below to determine if its fuel or spark problem that's if its cranking over and refuses to start

Get a carb cleaner and spray into the carb or the throttle body on an EFI. Did it start and die? If not disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine -have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark? If so-you have a fuel problem, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light. No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil, distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors-

If both fuel and spark is present-check the valve and ignition timing, this will lead you to problems with compression and valves opening and closing at the wrong time
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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So you know I'm an idiot when it cones to cars, I knew my last car good but the astro is new to me. I canty even see where the plugs are.

I have a full tank so other than that i'm not sure how to check for missing fuel.

No the engine light didn't come on prior, when I crank it all lights come on and when I stop and key is still in, the engine light goes out, sounds like its cranking over but but just not catching, RUm rum rum over and over. Don't know what an EFI is.
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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An EFI ( Electronic Fuel Injection )

Get a carb cleaner and spray into the carb or the throttle body on an EFI. Did it start and die? Did you do this-if not best do it to determine if its fuel or spark then comeback for more assistance-
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:58 PM (Merged)
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A granchild pumped the tank full of water. The owner then added more gas and tried starting it. It then sat for 6 months. It was then brought to me ! I took and dumped the fuel, cleaned the rust out, removed the debris. I also replaced the fuel pump, fuel filter and replaced the gas which to which I added 4oz of Marvel Mystery Oil and 12oz of Valvoline water remover.I changed the spark plugs and yes ! Even the camshaft position sensor. I have taken a fuel pressure reading at the schrader valve and have 63psi. The vehicle briefly starts and runs with ether sprayed into the airbox. Please help !
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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If it runs with either, then it isn't getting fuel. Since you have fuel pressure at the rail, check to see if the injectors are getting power.

Also, did you blow the water out of the fuel lines and rail?
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes the fuel rails were blown free.I just got the van fired up by ultilizing a friend to keep the van running by continous spraying of ether into the throttle body. It now is running but very roughly.A code scan shows an obd II code of 300.I rechecked the plug wires making sure they were 3 1 5 on the driver's side 2 4 6 on the passenger's side. Firing order is 1, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 .I believe the cap, rotor, and plug wires are due for changing.
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My fuel pump was whining really loud and quit and the van stop running going down the road. My check guages and check engine light came on and the van will not start all the relay are good and the fuel pump is good. The motor was replace about 2 months. The fuel pump does not come on at all but its ok. Im not shure what it is, im think electrical but dont know where to start looking
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Saturday, October 27th, 2018 AT 3:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Are you saying the pump won't even prime, when you turn on the key, no crank?

If your saying you have good spark at the plugs, during cranking and it's just a fuel pump issue, start at the fuel pump relay. One of those terminals at the relay, should be hot all the time, D1 terminal. If it isn't hot, go to the ecm B fuse, not only check the fuse, but, check that one of the fuse terminals is hot.

My information shows D1 and C3 terminals at the relay connector are for the switch side of the relay. You might doublecheck by looking at the diagram on the relay. If D1 is hot and you use a jumper to C3 from D1 at the socket, by the way you probably should use an inline fuse on the jumper, just in case, the pump should run like crazy, if it doesn't, there something wrong with the voltage circuit--- ground circuit or the pump.

It could be the computer isn't energizing the relay for some reason, but, even without the proper rotational signals, the pump should still prime at key on. That's how I see it.
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