Oil leak

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DEHALL762
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Is there a way to tighten the plate that is the part of the engine block where the oil pan meets the block? It appears to have (4) pieces to form the block where the oil pan meets and the end plate that is where the transmission meets the engine. This plate has a gap of about 1/16" and the other plate at the end near the other end of the oil pan is tight without any gap and doesn't leak at that end. The oil pan usually fit on the block and the block was a continuing solid serface not pieces fitted together to form the base of an engine block. It seem as if it was designed to leak if any one of the areas get loose as this one has done. I hay have to order a shop manual to see how the engine was put together because the books that are in the Auto part stores gives little in that area.
Wednesday, February 15th, 2006 AT 10:34 AM

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Tiny
2CARPRO JACK
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https://www.2carpros.com/kpages/auto_repair_manuals.htm
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Wednesday, February 15th, 2006 AT 5:44 PM
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I checled 2carpro remark but I don't know what it is that it signified. I have checked the manuels but I can't find anything that shows me how or what is an the end of the 2000 Buick LaSabre where the rear main seal and transmission is and how it is secured because where the oil pan gasket makes contact with the engine block there is a gap and I can't see how to tighten what ever is there. I think my question is, where can I find anything that will show me the parts that is attached to the engine block at both ends from the under side of the engine? Dol you think that a shop manual could provide that information?
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Sunday, March 26th, 2006 AT 10:16 PM
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My car is leaking oil bad. When the car is idling it leaks and when the car is off. I came out the next morning engine was bone dry. I pour oil in and it came right out in a steady stream from the passenger side. Pours out when I put oil in it every time I want to drive the car I have to put oil in it and like ten minutes later all the oil is on the ground or in a steady stream from me driving. What can be the problem?
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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You know we cannot see it over a computer, but if the engine has to be running for the leak to occur, the most common causes are a leaking oil pressure sending unit, double gasket on the oil filter or it is loose, or, depending on which engine you have, a leaking camshaft seal. There are lots of other things that can leak oil but typically they do not leak that fast. Have someone take a peek at it.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Wen the car is off I pour one quart in it and it leaks right out. Passenger side right.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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If it leaks out without the engine running, there is a hole in the oil pan. That is not serious, yet. However, it can become expensive if internal damage occurs. Engines will run without oil about as long as a body will run without blood.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Well in my case the car would start smoking and stall on me when I run out of oil.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Okay, so I went outside this morning started the car up look under it and oil was pouring out in a steady stream while the engine was running. It is coming from beside the oil filter, but when I shut off the car it drips steady then slows to a crawl. Is this a major fix?
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Shortly after I replaced the lower intake manifold gasket, upper intake manifold gasket, intake plenum, PCV, and did an oil change, I developed a pretty serious engine oil leak on the passenger side front. This confuses me, because the normal things to check are okay: Old oil filter seal is off and gone, new filter fits well, and no matter how tight I get it with my hands, it still leaks NEAR the oil filter. It has to be coming from above it, but I can't see in there to know what I'm looking for. It actually drips off of the oil filter itself. I've tried three different oil filters, and the leak is still present, so I'm convinced it's not that. Where on earth could this leak be? Any ideas would be great. I'm no mechanic, but I do tinker with stuff.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Your filter is bad or the filter adapter or lines are leaking. Clean the area. Have some one start the car so you can get under the car and see where it is coming from. Then come back.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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You could wash the lower part of engine, then see if you could find the leak? Feel around all gasket surfaces that you worked on, see if hand comes back oily.

For hard to find leaks, there is a uv dye that you can use to find leaks. It should come with uv lite.

Anybody else has any ideas, jump in.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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You are getting conflicting advice because you are providing confusing details. It only leaks with the engine running. It leaks while pouring in oil and the engine is not running. This should have been handled by a professional a long time ago. Loss of oil is not something to fiddle around with. It will turn serious real quickly, and it sounds like you have already done some engine damage if it is stalling.

These are the kinds of leaks mechanics love because they are real easy to find. Dye is for extremely slow leaks that take hours or days to show up, and the residue spreads around making the source of the leak nearly impossible to find. That is not the case here. Cadieman is right about the oil filter. The gasket from the last one could have stuck in place when the new filter was installed. That is called "double-gasketing" and it happens to all of us sooner or later. The new gasket is held in place by a ridge on the filter. Nothing holds the old gasket in place so it blows out from the oil pressure. The oil will only leak when the engine is running because that is when the oil pump is pushing oil, under pressure, to the filter. There are a lot of passages taking that oil to critical places in the engine. It is the oil running out of those passages that makes it continue running out after you stop the engine. You will lose up to another half quart after the engine is stopped, and it will continue to drip for hours after that.

The only thing you can do is to try turning the oil filter clockwise to see if it is loose. If it is, turn it as tight as you can get it by hand. If it already seems tight, unscrew it counter-clockwise to remove it, then look on the unpainted mounting surface to see if the large square rubber o-ring gasket is in place. If it is, look for a second one sticking to the engine. If you see one on the engine, remove it and throw it away, then put the filter back on.

If the gasket and tightness is not the issue, examine the crimp in the filter housing to see if part of it has separated creating a hole. If it has, you have a problem with the oil pump's pressure relief valve and too much pressure has exploded the filter. You can try a new filter first but chances are the same thing will happen. Even cheap filters are made with enough integrity that this only happens when there is an engine problem, not from being cheap.

If you still have not identified the cause of the leak, tow the car to a mechanic because at this point it is likely to be beyond the scope of most do-it-yourselfers. The filter "adapter" was mentioned and is a possibility. It is really a "fixture" to allow the filter to be attached to the engine. It is rare for them to crack, but it is not unheard of. There could also be a leaking plug at the end of an oil passage. They cap off access holes the manufacturer used to drill passages inside the engine. Usually those are threaded and have sealant on the threads, but in some applications they are pressed-in soft metal plugs. Plugs are typically used where something else will be bolted on over it so it cannot work its way out. One of those plugs could have rusted out.

Look for the highest point you see oil running down the side of the engine. Oil does not run up so if you see it up high, there could be a valve cover gasket leaking or a camshaft seal, but both of those will leak relatively small amounts of oil and there will not be very much leaking after the engine is stopped. That does not match with the ten minutes you originally stated to lose all the oil. Unless a valve cover has a chunk missing or a camshaft seal has blown out, the oil will take over a hundred miles to leak out. The clue is to figure out the highest point you see oil running down and follow that to the source.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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I figured it out. It's my oil pressure sensor leaking. I must've broke it while I was tinkering with stuff. Dropped a wrench on it or something. That is the source of my leak, and that oil is dripping onto the oil filter, then running off the car, creating the illusion that the oil filter is leaking. Thanks guys.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Okay.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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Glad you found it. Good job.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:47 PM (Merged)
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I have a buick lesabre 3.8 seriesII I recently change my oil about 2wks later my oil light came on I check my dipstick and there was no oil in the car. I tighten up the oil filter and put 4qts of oil in it started up the engine and there it was again leaking its leaking on the front right side near the oil pan above the oil filter do you knw wat it could be
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:48 PM (Merged)
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Probably the oil pressure sensor.
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:48 PM (Merged)
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Ok thanks, do I replace it or seal it
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:48 PM (Merged)
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I have a 1997 buick lesabre 3.6 with 121652 miles my low pressure light came on when I checked the oil level it was just touching the dipstick. Checking under the vehicle there was oil all overbut the oilpan was showing no oil or any leaks or no leaks from the valve covers either. Where do I look next
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Saturday, November 16th, 2019 AT 1:48 PM (Merged)
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If the leak is on top part, try the dipstick. If not sealed it can spray oil all over the place! If that's not it, go to the car wash and wash the motor with degreaser so you can find a fresh stream!
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