Air conditioner does not work properly

Tiny
ROBERTO JAMETT
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Air conditioner low pressure hose collapsed and system stop cooling.
Friday, May 11th, 2018 AT 8:05 PM

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Tiny
KEN L
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Hello,

There is only one reason the low side hose will collapse is the expansion valve is plugged not allowing refrigerant to flow throughout the system. Please vacuum down the system to inspect the valve. Also, if the valve is plugged which it sounds like the compressor is coming apart and filling the system with debris.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-air-conditioner-compressor

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/re-charge-an-air-conditioner-system

You will need to flush the system as well as replacing the receiver dryer.

Here is the expansion valve #4 in the diagram. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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Monday, May 14th, 2018 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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A/C quit working about 6 months ago. Had a couple of different mechanics look at it and they told me different problems. One said the compressor was going out and the other said it just needed to be recharged. Have a 2 month old baby and can't go anywhere with him because it is too hot out. Please help!
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi, Heather.

Since I am starting after two different diagnoses, I have to ask a couple questions. First, what rational did the mechanic provide indicating the compressor was bad? Were there any sounds or changes in the ac prior to it railing?

Before I can really make any determinations, I need you to check if the Freon in the system is low or not. I am going to provide you with a link that explains how to add Freon. It isn't hard. You will need to get the Freon at a parts store and I need you to get one with a gauge.

Follow this link:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/air-conditioner-how-to-add-freon

Make sure you get Freon with a gauge. Once you recharge it using the above link, the A/C should work. If it doesn't, then I will need you to ask the parts store if they have an A/C pressure manifold they can lend you. However, we will get to that if needed. I don't want you to get confused.

So, if the mechanic that told you it needed recharged is correct, by performing the procedure above, it should work.

Let me know what you find. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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I already tried to recharge it but it didn't take. I followed all the instructions on the can, but none of the Freon went into the system. As far as the one that told me the compressor was bad, I am not sure how he found that because he just looked at it for a quick moment. He didn't run any diagnostic tests.
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Okay, if it wouldn't take any Freon, did you notice what pressure was indicated on the gauge? Also, when you turn the A/C on with the engine running, does the compressor engage? Basically, you will hear a clicking sound from the ac clutch behind the compressor pulley, and usually you will notice a load placed on the engine.

Let me know. Also, let me know if you have access to A/C pressure gauges. They are referred to as an A/C manifold gauge set. There are two of them. Often times a parts store will have them to lend out to customers. If the compressor won't engage and you can't add Freon, I need to know what the system's pressures are (both high pressure and low pressures)

If you take a look through this link, you will see the gauges I am referring to:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/re-charge-an-air-conditioner-system

Let me know.
Joe
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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I don't have any gauges to be able to check and I don't remember what the gauge said when I tried to add Freon. As far as the compressor coming on, yes when I turn on the A/C it kicks on and stays on since it won't reach the temperature the thermostat is set to.
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, if it is turning on, that means the system is working and there is enough freon in the system to allow it to turn on. Now, a faulty compressor can cause the problem or it could be something totally different such as a blend door actuator in the vehicle not allowing the cool air to reach the passenger compartment. Basically, the system is working but the cold air can't get to you.

The only way for me to confirm one or the other is this. Either we remove the blend door actuator can make sure it is working, or I need to know both the high and low side pressures when the AC is engaged.

I wish I had an easier answer, but I don't want to guess and cost you money that doesn't need spent.

Let me know if you can get the pressures from a shop or if you feel comfortable getting under the dash to remove the actuator.

I will watch for your reply.

Joe
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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I will try and get the pressure gauges.
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Sounds like a plan. Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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A/C blowing hot air, compressor clutch is engaged and compressor operating, because you can hear the engine bog down when A/C is turned on!
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros.com.

If the compressor is working, the suspect there is a problem with the blend air door actuator. This component allows cool air to enter the vehicle. If it is not working, you will get heat or ambient temperature air flow.

Here is a link that in general discusses the component and its replacement. Take a look and see if it helps.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-blend-door-motor

If you find the air door actuator (blend air door) is not working, here are the directions for both testing and replacement. All attached pictures correlate with these directions.

REPAIR PROCEDURES
Inspection

1. Ignition "OFF"
2. Disconnect the connector of temperature control actuator.
3. Verify that the temperature control actuator operates to the hot position when connecting 12V to the terminal 3 and grounding terminal 4.
Verify that the temperature control actuator operates to the cool position when connecting in the reverse.

[Drive]

4. Check the voltage between terminals 5 and 6(Drive).
Specification

[Passenger]
5. Check the voltage between terminals 6 and 7(Passenger).
Specification
It will feedback current position of actuator to controls.
6. If the measured voltage is not specification, substitute with a known-good temperature control actuator and check for proper operation.
7. If the problem is corrected, replace the temperature control actuator.

Replacement

1. Disconnect the negative (-) battery terminal.
2. Remove the crash pad left side cover (A).
3. Remove the extension cover(A).
4. Remove the crash pad lower cover (A).
5. Disconnect the diagnosis connector (A).
6. Remove the reinforcing panel (A).
7. Remove the shower duct (A).
8. Disconnect the temperature control actuator connector (A).
9. Loosen the mounting screw and then remove the temperature control actuator (B).
10. Remove the right extension cover (A).
11. Disconnect the damper (A) from the glove box (B).
12. Remove the glove box lift (A).
13. Disconnect the pine (A), then remove the glove box (B).
14. Remove the crash pad passenger panel(A).
15. Remove the glove box housing (A).
16. Remove the shower duct (A).
17. Disconnect the temperature control actuator connector (A)
18. Loosen the mounting screw and then remove the temperature control actuator (B).
19. Installation is the reverse order of removal.

_________________________________

I hope this helps. As you can see by the directions, most of the dashboard needs removed.
It is not a fun job. Let me know if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have replaced the climate controls (manual controls)recently because the fan had stopped working. I replaced first the resistor, but I almost knew the problem was not that, then I replaced the manual climate controls. The fan is now working, but the air conditioning is not blowing cool air. I would like to know, in what order I can start checking things to see if I can pinpoint where is the problem.
Thanks in advance.

Eduardo
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
KEN L
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Sure it sounds like the system is down on charge.

Here is a guide to help you confirm the problem and refill the system:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/air-conditioner-how-to-add-freon

Here are some additional guides that should help as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-car-air-conditioner-works

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thank-you Ken, really appreciated.
Eduardo
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Please let us know what happens and upload pictures or videos of the problem.

Cheers, Ken
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Ken, thank-you for your help. I have another question for you. The condenser is placed in front of the radiator, when I click on the AC, should the fan start working right away (even if the temperature of the water in the motor is not in need yet to start cooling). Like on a hot day you just start the engine and right away you ask the AC to start, Should the fan start cooling the condenser right away.
Thanks
Eduardo
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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This can take up to 3 minutes to start which is normal. If it never runs then we have a problem. Does it run at all?

Please let us know

Cheers, Ken
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I only tried to do a test when the engine was already hot, so yes the fan started working after a little while but obviously I was not able to know if it started because the engine needed to get the temperature lowered or if it was because I clicked on the AC. I will do the same test in the morning when the engine has been off all night, this way I know for sure that the engine won ask the fan to start for several minutes, this way I will engage the AC and will be able to see if the fan starts because it needs to cool the condenser, Am I right Ken.

Eduardo
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Sounds good please let me know.
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Friday, January 22nd, 2021 AT 12:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello. My 2007 Hyundai Tucson has recently had an issue with the air conditioner. When I start the car it cools for a couple of minutes, but in stop and go driving it starts blowing warm air. If I get the car to 55mph the air conditioning starts blowing ice cold again until I have to stop or slow down. I have taken it to a shop twice and I am losing faith in them. They recharged it the first time and then replaced a valve the second time. The AC runs the same as when I first took it in to them, and now they are saying I should probably pay them to replace the whole compressor. I don't know much about air conditioning, but was wondering if the car would get cold if it is the compressor messing up, or if it is the condenser not getting air flow below 55mph. Thank you for your help.
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