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Engine turns over but will not start

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ROBERTMH
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  • 2003 NISSAN ALMERA
  • 60,000 MILES
Car was driving fine, got home an parked. Left overnight, and now will not start. Engine cranks normally, no fault codes recorded, fuel pump pressure 3 bar. When cranking sometimes it almost seems like it is going to fire up, but it does not. Also replaced crank angle sensor, no difference.

Fuel Pump?

Okay, following your advice, I carried out the following steps, with some odd results.

1. Firstly, sprayed some engine start into the intake, tried to start, and nothing happened, still just cranks with no start.

2. Removed all ignition coils and spark plugs (note, these were replaced less than five hundred miles ago). All spark plugs were very wet with fuel (expected after all the cranking with no start).

3. Dried off and cleand all plugs, then, in order to check for spark, reconnected all igntion coils, inserted plugs into each ignition coil, earthed the plugs. Then, removed the fuel pump fuse and cranked the engine. All plugs have good spark.

4. To make sure no fuel in cylinders, I leave the fuel pump fuse out, disconnect coils again and crank the engine for a few seconds to clear out any fuel.

5. Put all plugs and coils back, reconnect (but still leave fuel pump fuse out), try to start the car, and it starts! Runs for a few seconds, then shuts off. (To be expected, fuel pump fuse is out)

6. Put fuel pump fuse back, try to start. Nothing. Engine just cranks.

7. Spray engine start in, nothing, engine just cranks.

8. Repeat steps 1 to 4, and once again, the engine starts, runs for few seconds, then stops.

9. Leave fuel pump fuse out, but spray more engine start into intake. Engine starts and runs. Can keep engine running by spraying small amounts of engine start into intake.

10. Replace fuel pump fuse, engine no longer starts, even with engine start?

Any ideas?

Robert

Please help, at wits end with this one now!

Thanks
Robert
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 2:38 PM

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Tiny
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Fuel pressure should be at 3.59 bar or 51 psi. At idle. If it is lower than the it could be a fuel filter plug, pressure regulator or pump. Check to make sure you have a good spark at spark plug. Try spraying choke cleaner in the throttle body, if it starts it is a fuel problem, like injectors not working or spraying fuel.

It sounds like you have a EFI replay that is burnt out not supplying power to the ECM. Here is a guide to help you confirm the failure:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

If your engine light is on have it scanned and check to see if there is a vacuum line going to the pressure regulator. Also, we do not have Almera's here in the US so i am using Altima's which we have here. what engine size is this you did not put that down?
one other thing you might want to check coolant temperature sensor as it may be telling the computer that the engine is cold and putting to much fuel in engine.

You can test the injectors for resistance. An Altima with a 1.8L is 13.5-17.5 at 20C so if temp is off it will change the resistance on it. Fuel ppm resistance is 0.2-5.0 OHMS at 25C hope this helps you. The only other thing they give is fuel pump pressure at idle which yours will not do anyhow.

This guide can help as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Let me know
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Sunday, February 26th, 2012 AT 6:31 PM
Tiny
ROBERTMH
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Hi,

Thanks for reply. The engine is a 1.8.

I have scanned for error codes, and none listed.

I did check fuel pressure, and I am reading 3 Bar, spec is 3.59 but I was not sure if such a small variation would make much difference.
On this particular model, the fuel pump and pressure regulator are a single integrated unit in the tank, with only a single hose feeding the fuel rail (so there is no return, that is handled in the pump).

I will try and test engine temp sensor, but I am suspecting fuel pump more and more. Problem is, they are impossible to get hold of. Two week wait from main dealer, no "pirate" version, and I have tried all the breakers and nobody has this particular type.

Finally I replaced the ECM relay I got confused with EFI and the car started.

Thanks for the help.

Robert
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Sunday, February 26th, 2012 AT 6:39 PM
Tiny
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Use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help. Please tell a friend.

Cheers
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Sunday, February 26th, 2012 AT 6:47 PM
Tiny
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Hey, I have a problem as well. Mine was working well, no problems at all. Until I parked the car one evening and the next morning I tried to start it, it would just tumble and tumble and it would not start at all. It is an hr15 engine for a y 12 wingroad. I checked the air flow sensor and the jacks. Checked the coil packs and the fuel pumps. What else can I check? Please help me. I have been getting this problem for the past couple days and nobody seems to be figuring the problem.
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Friday, July 27th, 2018 AT 8:41 AM
Tiny
KEN L
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We need to test the ignition for spark because it sounds like the crankshaft angle sensor is not working. Here is a guide to help us get started look toward the bottom of the guide:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

this guide can help as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run down this guide and report back.

Cheers, Ken - 2,69 k
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Sunday, July 29th, 2018 AT 4:48 PM
Tiny
LEONARD MBATSHA
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My car wont start it just swing the engine. I have replace the cam sensor, but still wont start. I have tested the power to the cam sensor and found none. There is also no power to the fuel pump. I have checked and tested all the fuses and are working.
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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We have no information on this car as it is not sold in US. Try resetting security system first. See link.
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
SUNRAS
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Engine Performance problem
2002 Nissan Almera 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive

i clean my injectors and it leak and now my is not starting
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
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DAVE H
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You need to replace the injectors if they are leaking
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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My car wont start and my immobiliser light is staying. It wants to start but just wont
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The security system has it locked it down. You need to have the computer scanned by a dealer to see what is causing this to happen.
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 2:59 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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On mornings when I start the car the drive will not engage all other gears work perfect tha drive gear only works when the vehicle is hot
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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It sounds like a valve body problem. Have a trans shop road test it to confirm

Roy
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
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Every so often my Nissan Almera 160 lux '02 cuts out whilst driving. Sometimes it will recover and carry on, other times will swing over without any proplems but not catch. Sometimes given 5 to 30 minutes will restart. Serviced and no improvement. Where should I start looking for the fault?
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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We don't have that model in u.S but scan for codes and check fuel presssure, also clean throttle plate on both sides with choke cleaner we have no info on specs for this car
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
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It has a 1.6 litre fuel injected twin OHC engine with seperate coils on each spark plug. Owners manual says engine code is qg16de if that helps at all
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The only twin cam there is in u.S is a 1.8L and that speck for fuel is 34psi w/vacuum at regulator and 43psi without 2.4bar & 3.0bar
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Monday, October 22nd, 2018 AT 3:00 PM (Merged)
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Hi I have a Nissan almera 2006 auto which I have tried so many macanhics to repair but is still doing the same thing I av repaired the gear box control which the guy said that would be the cause but still doing the same thing, it sometimes starts and then switches off when in motion then when this happens we tap the gearbox control unit and she starts again but once that happens, but recently it is not starting at all please could u assist me in this matter it would be greatly appreciated
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Friday, October 26th, 2018 AT 6:54 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do you mean the starter isn't engaging or it does and the engine fails to start?
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Friday, October 26th, 2018 AT 6:54 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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My almera just crank but wont start it started last week when I went to the car wash, after I start the car the was a sound or vabration on the left side and later on the car wont start
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