Rough idle problem and can't find solution

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SROZAR
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  • 1994 FORD RANGER
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  • V6
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  • MANUAL
  • 200,000 MILES
I have a 94 ford ranger extended cab 4.0l 5spd 4x4. Engine has a rough idle when first turned on (gets worse if its restarted after warmed up), has steam and water dripping out the exhaust, chocolate milky residue on the backside of the throttle body butterfly but no water in the oil when dipstick is pulled however the oil does have a hint of gas to the smell, very heavy smell of gas from the exhaust smells way rich but plugs dont look like they are getting too much fuel however I am changing spark plugs every couple months because they keep burning up. This time though, the middle plug on the passenger side was soaked in this very heavy gummy kind of wetish fuelish goo, intermittent hesitation/ power loss/ misfire under acceleration above 2500 rpm, has stalled on me leaving me on the side of the highway. Ive replaced plugs, wires, coilpack, fuel pump relay, fuel filter, cleaned the MAF properly, cleaned the throttle body and IAC valve, visually checked vacuum lines for cracks, none, checked the fuel pressure regulator vacuum line for any trace of fuel, none, MAF has 14.3V between "a" and "b" and 0.98V between "c" and "d" which I believe is correct, IAC valve has 12.3V to it and a resistance of 11.1 but no change in idle when the plug is disconnected. Check engine light never comes on while running. Ran the self test on it results being KOEO- 111, 111 (system checks out) with the same stored in continuous memory, KOER- 412, and 411 in that order. That describes the IAC valve, but I dont see with what that has to do with making it stall while maintaining constant highway speed at 3000RPM. Im at a loss. O2 sensors? Fuel pump? Leaking injector? ECT? PCM/ECU?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:17 PM (Merged)
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Have coolant system pressure checked for a head gasket leak, check fuel pressure and clean throttle plate on both sides with choke cleaner and iac hole.
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KENT1959
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Engine Performance problem
1997 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Manual 180000 miles

my 97 Ranger has a rough idle, idles slow then races up a bit then slows again
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:17 PM (Merged)
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Engine running rough or misfiring can be cause by the following:

1. Defective spark plug
2. Inadequate spark/coil, defective spark plug wire.
3. Lack of compression
4. False air leakage.
5. Faulty fuel injectors.
6. Insufficient fuel pressure.
7. Contaminated fuel.
8. EGR valve that is leaking.
9. Oxygen sensors.
10. Throttle position sensor.
11. Idle air control valve.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:17 PM (Merged)
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GAETANOR
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Engine Performance problem
1994 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 105000 miles

Recent replacements included tune-up with new plugs and wires, new fuel filter, and fuel injector cleaner run through the fuel tank. The truck has a rough idle and acceleration feels sluggish. There is an odd odor that comes out of the exhaust however (fuel mixture running rich?). Anyway, I heard the intake sensor might be an easy fix - should I give it a try?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:18 PM (Merged)
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MERLIN2021
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You may have a vacuum leak, get a can of spray gumout, spray the vac lines and maniflod area, when the idle changes, youve found the leak! You want the engine running and spray on the outside but do direct the stream onto the hoses, if it is a vacuum leak, the engine idle will change speed, then you have detected a leak, repair the vacuum leak and see how it runs! If that doesnt do it, you may need a new idle air control valve, it's bolted to the throttlebody. Stuck EGR can be another cause.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:18 PM (Merged)
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I have a 98 ford ranger 4.0 V6 with 135,000 miles. My problem started over 2 years ago. It started to stumble and hesitate and had a rough idle. I got a tune up with new wires and plugs. It ran good for about 4 to 6 months and progressively got worse. Took it in and they did another tune up and worked good for another 6 months. This keeps happening over every 6 months. I have changed the EGR, coil pack, crankshaft sensor, camshaft sensor, all the oxygen sensors, cleaned and checked MAF sensor, the #4 fuel injector, fuel filter, and again the plugs and wires. When an error code come on it is P0304. I had fuel pressure checked, compression checked, and checked for vacuum leaks. All were good. Mechanic checked the timing chain and it was in good shape. No leaks, no overheating, no loss of oil. I do change oil regularly. Mechanic says engine is in good shape. The #4 plug does seem to go every 6 months. Throws the same P0304 code. Changing the plug seems to keep it running ok for the 6 months. I don't know what this could be. The fact that it runs good for that amount of time and then just goes bad again is very confusing. Any help would be great. Tell how to troubleshoot this. If you can give me steps I would appreciate any help. Thank you.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:18 PM (Merged)
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CARADIODOC
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Rather than replacing the spark plug, switch it with one of the other ones, then see if the misfire changes to that cylinder. I suspect you aren't really solving the problem by installing a new spark plug. You're just overcoming the symptom for a little while. Ford has had a lot of trouble with their ignition coils, and if you have one that is not able to develop the needed voltage to create a spark, intermittent misfires will be the first symptom.

You also have to look at the mating spark plug that is fired by the same coil as # 4. As either spark plug wears, it's going to require more voltage to fire the pair of them. As an example, one plug may only need 10,000 volts to make a spark, and its mate might need 13,000 volts. That's fine if the coil can produce 23, 00 volts or more, but if it gets weak or arcs internally, the plug needing the higher voltage will usually be the first one to not fire. Both spark plugs should not fire when one doesn't, but you have to consider that the one coming up on the compression stroke will need the higher voltage. When it's on the exhaust stroke, it won't need as much voltage, so both plugs will fire.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:18 PM (Merged)
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Engine Performance problem
1997 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

My buddy has this truck, the inlet for the radiator had a hole and was losing fluid. He has been filling it with water ever since. We replace the inlet, put in a new thermostat, everything has been running great till about two weeks ago. The truck stated losing fluid again, checked and there is a rotted freeze plug. Now the truck idles rough, lacks power, and is starting to misfire. Would the freeze plug cause all that?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Rotted freeze plug. Now the truck idles rough, lacks power, and is starting to misfire. Would the freeze plug cause all that?

No the freeze plug won't do that-When was the last time you gave it a tune-up and is the CEL on?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Not sure when he had it tuned up last, I will check with him on that, and no the CEL is not on.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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2003 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 95,000 miles

I have a problem with the check engine light on and rough idling. My mechanic said that it is the code for the #6 cylinder. Since then, we have replaced the fuel filter, plugs, wires, and the fuel pump reads good pressure. We have also rebuilt the heads. We have done a pressure test and everything checks out normal. We have also replaced the fuel injectors and the computer says that both banks are flowing smoothly into both injectors. We can take the spark plug wire off and there is no change in the idling but when we take any other wire off, the engine drops off more. What else can I do to fix this truck that is only running on 5 cylinders? Thanks. M. Harris
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Check the no.6 cylinder's compression both dry and wet tests if its withn specs
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2005 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 73040 miles

My truck runs fine while driving. But when I stop at a light the truck has a rough idle to it. Before I changed the fuel filter, it actually would almost die in neutral or park. So the filter seemed to have fixed that part. I have also replaced the plugs and wires to try to fix it. Nothing helps. No noticible vacuum leaks that I can hear and the check engine light is not on. It came on about a year ago, I unplugged the negative from the battery for 15 min, and it was fine since. The rpms at idle seem normal and it doesn't feel like a low idle, cause it feels more like a slight miss. I can still feel it if I raise the rpms up a little around 1000-1500. I did pull and check the IAC and it was perfect. Also a fresh oil change today didn't help either. Injector cleaners aren't helping either. So im puzzled?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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I think that maybe a simple throttle body/bore cleaning might just fix the issue, clean it up with some cleaner and an old rag, also try to clean the throttle plate as best that you can mostly on the inside where all the soot seems to be overlooked, give that a try first and let me know how it goes
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Thanks leg for the response. I did pull the intake hose off today. The bore up to the butterfly was spotless. But I opened the butterfly, and wiped inside with a rag soaked with carb cleaner. It was very dirty behind the butterfly, and I can only reach in about a half inch past. I do feel that the bore opens up wider right after the butterfly, but I cannot reach it. I didn't currently have the right tool to get the bottom two bolts out on the throttle body housing. From that, the only thing I noticed on the way to work, was a better throttle response than before. I was unsure whether to just spray carb cleaner inside, because of what might happen when I start it. Should I try that before I go buy a tool set?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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LEGITIMATE007
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Well you can leave the truck running and toggle the throttle as you spray the cleaner every couple of seconds while keeping it from shuttting off.
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MARK A ROGERS
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I have had my Ford Ranger to two different garages for a rough idle diagnostic. Both put the scan tool on and found misfiring on two cylinders. The local Ford dealer said they did an air pressure test and found low compression on two cylinders. Both shops suggested that an engine replacement was the only repair. What other options may I have for this problem and a potential repair.
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Assuming a compression test showed low compression on two cylinders and the test was done properly, the next step would be to do a more involved cylinder leakage test. By looking and listening, that will tell if the leakage is through the intake valve, exhaust valve, past the piston rings, or through a leaking cylinder head gasket. You also didn't say how much those two cylinders were low. There are other potential causes of low compression. Either valve could be not opening fully due to a worn lobe on the camshaft or a broken rocker arm. For things like that you don't replace an entire engine with a used one that could have the same problem waiting to occur. You would typically repair what is broken. Have the cylinder leakage test done first. It takes quite a bit longer but I would want to know WHY I'm replacing the entire engine before I agreed to that.

'96 and newer models have misfire monitors in the Engine Computer as part of the emissions package and there should be diagnostic fault codes stored in the computer indicating which cylinders are responsible for the misfires. Did anyone read those codes? The Check Engine light should have been on too. Do those codes indicate the same cylinders as were identified in the compression test?
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Thursday, March 9th, 2017 AT 2:19 PM (Merged)
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Engine Performance problem
2004 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 167000 miles

My truck suddently began to idel rough and I felt a strong vibration. I heard a whining from the cranck shaft pulley, so I replaced the serperntine belt, idler pulley, and pulley tensioner assembly. I also replaced spark plugs and wires, and crank shaft position sensor. The engine still runs rough, either idling or running, too rough to drive
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