What would cause excessive blue tint smoke to come out of exhaust

Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
So why would I keeping losing oil as well i'm talking about a quart every two hours
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 8:34 PM
Tiny
KHLOW2008
  • MECHANIC
  • 41,814 POSTS
A quart every 2 hours? I would be surprised the plugs are not fouled up to stop the engine from running. If that is the case, something must be very wrong somewhere.

Remove the spark plugs and check if they are fouled.
Check for leakages.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 9:12 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
They are fouled very fouled they are completely covered with engine oil as far as leaks go the only one I can see and its very little is right buy the oil pan right next to the flywheel side I'm pretty sure its the gasket that needs to be changed on it but I don't think its that bad of a leak and few drips here and there
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:05 PM
Tiny
KHLOW2008
  • MECHANIC
  • 41,814 POSTS
I still believe you have a problem with the valve seals. You might need to check the piston rings as well but piston rings should not be that bad, if it is so, you would have low compression readings.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:10 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
But if only the oil control ring is bad wouldn't I still get good compression on all the cylinders
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:11 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
Heres a question what differences would I see between bad valve seals and bad rings
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:13 PM
Tiny
KHLOW2008
  • MECHANIC
  • 41,814 POSTS
If the oil rings are bad, the control rings would most probably be worn as well. However with so much oil on them there is a possibility the compression won't drop too much. Check the compression and note what they are. Anything belwo 150 psi would mean they are worn.

When installing the valve seals, did you test if they are a good fit with the valves?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:15 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
Yes I did do that and they were a good fit as far as the pressure last time I did a pressure test on them they all were blowing in the high 200 range
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:22 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
I know the limit is between 135-180psi but any higher than that would mean what
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:22 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
Also throwing this in when I am doing the pressure test there must be oil already in the cylinders seeing that the last time I did the valve seals I took the head off to reseat them there was at least about two spoon fulls of oil in the cylinders
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:24 PM
Tiny
KHLOW2008
  • MECHANIC
  • 41,814 POSTS
With so much oil in the cylinders, it can go higher. Guess the valve seals are the main culprit. Honestly I would not believe the piston rings can allow so much oil to get to the cylinders. You should be checking the valve guides as well.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:25 PM
Tiny
APAC408
  • MEMBER
  • 118 POSTS
How would I check the valve guides
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:34 PM
Tiny
KHLOW2008
  • MECHANIC
  • 41,814 POSTS
You need to shake the valves aftter removing the springs to see if they have any excessive sideway movements. Actually you need to measure them but we are experienced and can mostly gauge by feel if the guides are worn.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, September 1st, 2012 AT 10:39 PM
Tiny
NIK1234554
  • MEMBER
  • 4 POSTS
Hey I have the same problem my engine had 320000 KM and was smoking blue the same way so I change the motor ansd took it from a car ho was runing fine no smoke and put it in my car and took 4 drive whit it and started to do the exact smoke the tow engine had a compretion of 185 all piston I took of the manifol to see if the valve seal was leaking and thay are all dry

any conclusion?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, June 23rd, 2023 AT 7:29 AM
Tiny
KEN L
  • MASTER CERTIFIED MECHANIC
  • 48,363 POSTS
Excessive blue-tinted smoke from the exhaust is typically an indication of oil burning in the combustion chamber. While worn or damaged oil control rings can contribute to this issue, there could be other potential causes as well. Here are a few possibilities to consider:

Worn or Damaged Piston Rings: If the oil control rings or piston rings are worn or damaged, they may not effectively seal the combustion chamber, leading to oil entering the cylinder and burning with the fuel mixture.

Cylinder Wall Wear: Excessive cylinder wall wear can also cause oil consumption and blue smoke. If the cylinder walls are worn, it can affect the sealing ability of the piston rings.

Valve Stem Seals: Although you mentioned replacing the valve seals, it's possible that the new seals were not properly installed or that there are additional issues with the valve stem seals. If the seals are not sealing properly, oil can leak into the combustion chamber and result in blue smoke.

PCV System Issues: A malfunctioning Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) system can cause excessive oil consumption and contribute to blue smoke. If the PCV valve is clogged or not functioning correctly, it can lead to an imbalance in crankcase pressure and oil getting sucked into the intake manifold.

Engine Overfilled with Oil: If the engine oil is overfilled, it can cause excess oil to enter the combustion chamber and result in blue smoke. Ensure that the oil level is within the recommended range.

Other Engine Issues: There could be other engine-related problems such as worn valve guides, a cracked cylinder head, or a damaged turbocharger (if applicable), that might contribute to excessive oil consumption and blue smoke.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Sunday, June 25th, 2023 AT 11:49 AM
Tiny
NIK1234554
  • MEMBER
  • 4 POSTS
I want to know what APAC408 finally find at the end to fix is problem my is doing the exact same thing and I already check all that you're telling me and everything is good.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Sunday, June 25th, 2023 AT 2:02 PM
Tiny
KEN L
  • MASTER CERTIFIED MECHANIC
  • 48,363 POSTS
That was 11 years ago so I hope they get back to you.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, June 26th, 2023 AT 11:48 AM

Please login or register to post a reply.

Sponsored links