And yesterday I took the fuel line off at the tank should the fuel pump keep running it did for only about 3 sec then stoped turned it off and tryed agian and same thing. Pushed in the what looks like a air valve to day on the fuel rail and no pressure turned key off then back on then some gas came out very little then nothing
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 2:23 PM
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You never changed the spark plug wires yet?If the wires are breaking down that could cause 1 and four not to fire as much especially when hot if the wire was breaking down they would break down more when hot. But causing it not to start I dont think so you could have more the one issue. With the engine not running the fuel pump only runs for a few seconds to prime the fuel line pressure and injectors. When it starts it will run the pump constantly. The valve you found is where you check the fuel pressure. Rent a fuel pressure gauge and see what the fuel pressure is when it doesnt run good just to rule that out. They rent them at auto zone for free with deposite.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 4:29 PM
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How can I check the egr valve?
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 7:30 PM
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Change the plug wires no change. No auto zone around here.
Or part store that has one. Will need to go 70 miles to get one.
I live in kansas not to much here
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 7:33 PM
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That sucks your out where nothing is you can remove your egr valve and see if the pitle shaft is sticking opening. Also lets check your charging voltage at idle when its running bad with the headlights a/c etc on. Also have you had your battery tested made sure your battery cables are clean and tight?I would also make sure you do a exhaust back pressure test when its having trouble running.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 8:04 PM
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New battery charging voltage good.
Exhaust back pressure test how do you do that.
When it runs for about 5 min. Then turn it off will not start back up till it is cool agian.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 8:20 PM
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The back pressure test you remove the o2 sensor and screw the back pressure gauge in its place and hold the rpms up to about 2000 rpms and see what the gauge reads. The shutting off and wont start for five mins is what we have to work on you said we have spark to all the plugs when this happens. We also have to see what the fuel pressure reads then and also if we have injector pluse also. To check injector pulse you need a fuel injector noid light you plug it in place of the fuel injector crank the engine and watch for it to flash.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 8:27 PM
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Also do you have any carb and choke cleaner?If so when it gets hot and wont start spray some in the throttle body and see if it starts.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 9:55 PM
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When it wont start pour fuel into the throttle body. Does it start?Then check the fuel pressure we need to know what the fuel pressure is when it wont start. Youll need to do what me and saturntech9 say or youll never fix this and are wasteing everyones time.
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Monday, August 8th, 2011 AT 10:19 PM
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Fuel pressure is real low after it gets car warmed up
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Friday, August 12th, 2011 AT 4:05 PM
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What is the actual pressure?Real low doesnt tell us much.
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Friday, August 12th, 2011 AT 7:32 PM
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It is goes down to about 5 or less
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Saturday, August 13th, 2011 AT 11:04 AM
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YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE FUEL PUMP!
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Saturday, August 13th, 2011 AT 4:02 PM
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Well theres why it wont start when you have that low of fuel with the gauge hooked up and with the car cranking try smacking the center of the gas tank with the palm of your hand see if the fuel presure goes up. If it doesnt go up then see if you have power and ground at the fuel pump while cranking the engine.
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Saturday, August 13th, 2011 AT 4:05 PM
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Checked the fuel injectors 3 bad put new ones on every thing ok now thanks for the help