Timing belt intact but crankshaft will not turn

Tiny
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  • 2005 SUBARU LEGACY
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  • 4 CYL
  • 220,000 MILES
Drove car to work with no problem. That afternoon tried to start car to go home and got only a click. Bought battery and still got click. Bought starter and nothing changed, still same click. Assumed timing belt may have broke and bent valves, but puzzled how it could have occurred since I had no problems upon arriving to work. Pulled timing cover and belt is intact with no signs of fatigue or problems. Still can’t get crank to turn with a breaker bar using significant force. What could be causing this? Any help is appreciated. Al
Friday, June 7th, 2019 AT 6:11 PM

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Tiny
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Check if the level is low in the coolant reservoir. If it is, suspect a leaking cylinder head gasket, and a cylinder is filled with coolant, causing hydro-lock. If that has happened, you'll be able to rotate the crankshaft after removing the spark plug to allow the coolant to be expelled.

A potential additional clue is the head lights will dim a lot when trying to crank the engine, and the battery cables will become warm. When the lights stay bright and the cables do not get hot, a corroded cable, especially where it's hidden under the insulation, is a good suspect, but in that case you'd still be able to rotate the crankshaft.
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Friday, June 7th, 2019 AT 8:05 PM
Tiny
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Hi Caradiodoc,
Thank You for the reply. Your suggestion seemed right on as I made my way back to the Subaru. I really was prepared to see the indicators you suggested, but found coolant level fine. I removed all plugs in hopes to alleviate all compression, and crank will still not budge. Oil level is fine, although traces of oil around plugs which can be normal.
I’m about to get it towed back home and then remove base pan for observation to see what may be broke. It puzzles me that whatever may have broke, did so at the very end of the commute to work, and not a sign or sound to make me suspicious.
I’ll keep looking and thank you again, Al
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Saturday, June 8th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM
Tiny
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Have you tried rotating the crankshaft backward? If it goes a little way, then stops suddenly, the best suspect is a jumped timing belt.

I can't find a definite answer as to whether or not this is an "interference" engine. Some of my references say it is and some don't say one way or the other. It could be because there's two versions of this engine; a single overhead cam and a double overhear cam.

When an engine is turned off and coasts to a stop, it usually snaps backward at the end from the cylinder that has pressure building up in it on the compression stroke. That jolt can cause an old, worn timing belt to jump a few teeth, strip a few teeth off, or break. When any of those things happens on an interference engine, some of the valves will be partially open when the piston comes up on top dead center. Those valves stop the piston in its tracks.

When you have the single click from the starter solenoid, accompanied by the dim head lights during the attempted cranking, and the battery cables getting hot, those valves can be strong enough to block the piston's movement without being bent. For that reason, don't force the crankshaft to rotate. You may solve this with nothing more than a new timing belt and tensioner devices and pulleys. Some starters are strong enough to bend the valves, then you'll have a much more expensive repair. The same damage occurs when the timing belt breaks while the engine is running. The valves stop moving, but the crankshaft and pistons take a few seconds to coast to a stop. That's when the valves get bent.

Here's the procedure for replacing the timing belt on the single overhead cam engine:
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Sunday, June 9th, 2019 AT 7:49 PM
Tiny
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Hi Caradiodoc,
I did notice the battery cables noticeably warm when I was trying to start it. I knew that didn’t seem right, but passed it off to something I knew nothing about. I suppose it’s just ironic that whatever happened, happened immediately as I drove up and put it in park, then turned the key off. Other than a seized engine or major internal damage, there is nothing that should prevent a crankshaft from rotating.
Like I mentioned; I have removed timing belt cover and see belt is not broken, but there may be a problem with the tensioner which I cannot see without a partial tear down.

Thanks for all your input. Al
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Monday, June 10th, 2019 AT 4:57 PM
Tiny
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Keep us posted on your progress.
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Monday, June 10th, 2019 AT 7:03 PM

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