After replacing came with a bigger aftermarket CAM it backfires and will not start

Tiny
CHARLIE 19
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  • 2000 FORD MUSTANG
  • 3.8L
  • V6
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 130 MILES
I installed a little bigger than stock comp cams can with 480. Lift. I also installed the recommended push rods and valve springs. I installed all new gaskets, rear main seal, timing chain, cam position sensor and crankshaft position sensor. Since I got it all reassembled I can't get it to fire, it just backfires once and that's it. I set the timing according to the factory manual but that's for stock cam so I don't know if that's the problem or what. I need help!
Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 7:07 PM

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Tiny
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The factory setting for the camshaft position sensor is 54 degrees from center-line. I think I have it set right not for sure though. I did use the one of those plastic tools designed for that.
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Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 7:21 PM
Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Timing won't change due to the cam. I am going to provide both the removal and install directions for the chain and the cam sensor. Take a look through everything and confirm you did it as indicated. The attached pictures correlate with the directions.

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2000 Ford Mustang V6-3.8L VIN 4
Timing Chain
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Engine Timing Components Timing Chain Service and Repair Removal and Replacement Timing Chain
TIMING CHAIN
NOTE: Ford does not provide a TDC (Top Dead Center) mark or determination procedure for this engine in this vehicle.
ALLDATA users have reported success using aftermarket tools to determine TDC on this engine.

Timing Chain

Removal
1. Remove the timing cover.

Pic 1

2. Remove the camshaft position sensor drive gear.
1. Remove the bolt.
2. Remove the camshaft position sensor drive gear.

Pic 2

3. Rotate the crankshaft until the timing marks and keyways align.

Pic 3

4. Compress and install a retaining pin to hold the timing chain tensioner.

Pic 4

5. Remove the camshaft sprocket, the crankshaft sprocket and the timing chain/belt as an assembly.

Pic 5

6. Remove the timing chain tensioner.
1. Remove the bolts.
2. Remove the timing chain tensioner.

Installation

pic 6

1. Install the timing chain tensioner.
1. Position the timing chain tensioner.
2. Install the bolts.

Pic 7

2. Rotate the crankshaft so the number one piston is at Top Dead Center (TDC) and the key is at the 12 o'clock position.

Pic 8

3. If necessary, retract the tensioner pad retracting mechanism.
1. Compress the tensioner pad retracting mechanism.
2. Insert a retaining pin.

Pic 9

4. Turn the camshaft sprocket so that the timing mark is on the bottom of the balance shaft.

Pic 10

5. Install the timing chain, the camshaft sprocket and the crankshaft sprocket.

Pic 11

6. Make sure that the timing marks and the keyways are aligned.

Pic 12

7. Install the camshaft position sensor drive gear.

Pic 13

8. Remove the retaining pin.
9. Install the engine front cover.

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Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor
Vehicle Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Computers and Control Systems Camshaft Position Sensor Service and Repair Procedures Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor
CAMSHAFT POSITION (CMP) SENSOR
REMOVAL
1. Disconnect the battery ground cable. For additional information, refer to Battery.

Pic 14

2. Remove the Camshaft Position (CMP) sensor:
- Disconnect the connector.
- Remove the bolts and the sensor.

INSTALLATION
1. To install, reverse the removal procedure.

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions. Also, let me know what you are referring to with the cam sensor. It should be a plug and play component.

Take care,
Joe
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Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 7:54 PM
Tiny
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I did everything as indicated. Those are the exact same pictures as in my factory manual. I just don't know if I can camshaft sycronyzer at the degrees from engine center-line.
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Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 9:01 PM
Tiny
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At the proper degrees from center-line of the engine.
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Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 9:02 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

Do me a favor. Check compression. I wonder if you have valves hanging up. And now I understand what you were referring to. I can't see how anything would change. A different cam (more lift) isn't going to change the timing configuration. Have you checked compression? Have you pulled any plugs to see if there is evidence of too much fuel?

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, August 18th, 2019 AT 9:21 PM
Tiny
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I have checked compression, all cylinders were over 100 except for 1 at 80. I think I had noticed wet plugs in the past. Also last night I got a code I believe p1233 or 1223 for fuel pump driver module (disabled or offline). Have located the module, not quite sure how to go about testing it.
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Monday, August 19th, 2019 AT 9:54 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

Take a look at the picture I attached. It shows possible causes and describes the code. Check the inertia switch first.

Let me know if that helps.

Joe
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Tuesday, August 20th, 2019 AT 5:39 PM

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