Where is the starter relay switch located?

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PHILLIP RENE BOUCHER
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Not sure which switch is the starter relay switch / no manual.
Tuesday, September 17th, 2024 AT 8:00 AM

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STEVE W.
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It is in the battery junction box under the hood. Testing is simple, swap it with the blower relay. If it now starts, it's the relay. If not, then it is elsewhere in the system. What is the issue you are having?
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2024 AT 9:11 AM
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Thats exactly what I did / no change / back to beginning. Turned key nothing. Not even a click / gave starter a few taps while crossing sylanoid /turned some but not enough to start / got a starter from a used parts place / they are tested before selling they said / same thing / nothing unless I repeat above sequence / got it home doing that / changed sylaniod from my original one with the one I got from capital city auto parts / no change / then swapped the blower relay with starter relay / lots of power in battery / tested that / checked every cable and battery post to make sure they were all tight / thinking a bad starter from capital city? If they check them on a machine it would not be the same as on the vehicle with the extra load on it?
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2024 AT 2:52 PM
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Just looking at picture you sent of fusebox / hard to read but I think the starter relay is beside the blower relay to the right of it? There are 3 the same / grey in color
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2024 AT 2:58 PM
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STEVE W.
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Starter relay should be the ice cube style in the outer corner. Before you condemn the starter, you may want to test it on the vehicle. For that you can just use a short chunk of wire to go from the battery positive post on the starter to the starter engage post. That is the smaller wire that connects to the small post on the starter solenoid either bolt on or a push on depending on how they put it together. I would also use a set of jumper cables with the positive going from battery positive to the positive post on the battery and negative going from battery negative to a good ground on the engine. Now use the short wire to jump between the positive post and the starter engage post circled in image. Does the starter now run? If yes it isn't the starter. With the jumpers connected try the key, Nothing? Try shifting into neutral with your foot on the brake try the key? Now let's say it does turn over when jumped and does with the jumper cables attached, disconnect the jumper on the ground side and try it what happens? Now try it with the positive side disconnected at both ends anything. Those tests are to isolate where it has an issue. If it turns over when jumped, that means the starter is okay, if it doesn't turn over when you disconnect the ground side then there is an issue with the ground cables or connections. If it doesn't turn over with the positive side disconnected, then that cable is suspect. If it turns over with all the above but not when you use just the vehicles systems, then we have more testing. Most of which can be done with just a test light. So, get a test light, connect it to battery ground and we can start at fuse 9 in the under-hood box, it should have power at both sides with the key off. Now go to fuse 21 in the fuse box on the driver's side. With the key held in the start position it should get power to both sides. That tests the ignition switch and its wiring. Next go to the relay and remove it and probe the 4 contacts, you should find power on one pin. Now have the key held in start, you should now have power on two pins. Check that power in both park and neutral. If both work, you know the neutral switch and its wiring are okay. Now connect the test light to battery positive and probe the two pins that did not have power. One of them should light the light and may engage the starter as it should find a ground through the starter solenoid. If it does you know the starter control wiring is okay. The other should ground through the ECM. I suspect that one of these tests will show up as bad. That will show you where to look next.
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Wednesday, September 18th, 2024 AT 2:03 AM
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I put a new relay on / only $ 16, no change / I d/i did run the small wire to test / getting sparks from synanoid but starter is not clicking or turning at all / so if there are sparks it is getting power from relay? Correct / went threw wire harness / nothing I see bad / I think the starter I purchased is no good / I asked if they test them and of course they say they did but. One friend who is a mechanic said it may possibly turn there but when on vehicle with the extra load it may not work / make sense? / And I have learned to not ask from 3 or 4 people / it throws you off / sticking with you lol
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Wednesday, September 18th, 2024 AT 12:33 PM
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STEVE W.
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Okay, if it sparked but didn't turn over it could be a bad starter, that connection only activates the solenoid that has a high-power switch in it that actually connects the battery to the starter. With the number of bad out of the box parts these days anything can happen.
So, you swapped the relay and the starter and tried jumping the starter, have you had the battery tested just to rule it out?
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Wednesday, September 18th, 2024 AT 11:07 PM
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PHILLIP RENE BOUCHER
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Think I found the problem with starter I bought / the ground wire is only coming off starter and no end on it to connect to solenoid post / should have noticed it when hooking up solenoid / have to see how that hooks to starter / can I run a wire to ground post and then the other end to one of the starter bolts to ground it or simply to the frame.
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Wednesday, September 18th, 2024 AT 11:22 PM
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Saturday, September 21st, 2024 AT 12:16 PM
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STEVE W.
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There shouldn't be a ground wire on the starter, it grounds through the engine block. There should be a large red line from the battery to the top solenoid stud. Then a Brown wire with green stripe on the start terminal. The other cable on the solenoid should go into the starter body itself.
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Saturday, September 21st, 2024 AT 4:00 PM

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