Starter not working

ROSSCHESTER

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2004 NISSAN ARMADA
215,000 MILES

Was running great stopped went inside came out and would not turn over. All accessories' lights everything worked but would not turn over. Ran self-diagnostic everything checked out good. Replaced ECM relay replaced the IPDM relay and checked the fusible link at battery and it checked out running out of things to try. Really hope it is not starter under plenum, but it never made any noises or acted up at all. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. By the way, i'm a heavy equipment mechanic so I know my way around a motor just not good on electrical.

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JACOBANDNICKOLAS

MECHANIC
109,747 POSTS

Hi,

The one way to be sure it is the starter motor is to confirm power to it. The idea that it is under the intake doesn't make things easy. LOL

There should be a white wire with a red tracer coming from the power distribution module under the hood. That is the trigger wire for the starter. That wire should get 12v when the key is in the start position. See if you can access that wire. The best place to test would be on the starter, but that requires the removal of the intake as you already know.

I attached the wiring schematic below of the starting system. You can use this as a reference. Also, here are two links you may find helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

If you haven't checked the starter relay and relay fuse, do that as well. If there is a different relay with the same part number, switch them. If there isn't, here is a link that explains how to test one:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control
circuit

Also, when you check the fuse, confirm it has power to and from it.

And one last thing. See if placing it in neutral makes a difference.

Take care,

Joe

See pics below/pic 3 shows the starter relay location and fuse 53.

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Friday, November 12th, 2021 AT 8:15 PM

ROSSCHESTER

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Joe, I emailed you back but I think I did it in wrong place, so here goes again: I was at work today working on the armada and I pulled the console I thought I could see something in there that might be interfering with the shifter. When I got it apart I found the shifter cable bushing had crumbled away and cable was off shifter. I got parts and fixed it but it still would not start. I was cleaning up inside, when just for giggles I tried to start it and it started right up. Left the Harley at work and drove it home and put in the garage but it's still not fixed I won't drive it and chance being stranded. So, tomorrow I will start on your recommendations and will get back to you. Thanks, Rosschester

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Saturday, November 13th, 2021 AT 3:19 PM

JACOBANDNICKOLAS

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Hi,

You know, that sounds like it could be an adjustment issue. If it happens again shift to neutral and see if it starts.

I attached info below from the manual for testing/adjusting the shifter positioning. Take a look through them and let me know if they help. I have a feeling the adjustment is slightly out causing it to think it's not fully into park. The directions below are from the procedure section. The adjustment procedure starts with the third pic (I highlighted it).

By the way, I didn't receive anything. It's likely to have been sent to the wrong place.

Let me know what you find.

Take care,

Joe

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