Sept PO300, April 2022, P1404, April 26 PO302 and c121c

Tiny
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I had it towed to Aamco transmission and total car care, today 5/31/22. They review the have special computer and he said I can check on the water pump, diagnostic codes with his specialized employee, now I wait.
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Tuesday, May 31st, 2022 AT 7:08 PM
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Okay, I hope it goes ok for you. I know it's difficult when vehicles break down. Unfortunately, they all do at some point.
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Wednesday, June 1st, 2022 AT 12:13 PM
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I have estimate for water pump and remove and 1backfire. $1,300.00 and change only good thing it be made in pays too financial.
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Friday, June 3rd, 2022 AT 1:47 PM
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It's unfortunate that the other shop broke a bolt off in the engine block. That can end up being a lot of work. So hopefully after this, everything will be taken care of.
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Friday, June 3rd, 2022 AT 1:55 PM
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Also thank you for excellent advice.
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Friday, June 3rd, 2022 AT 2:32 PM
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Hey, the man said he removed water pump and drove it, riding rough, need this by June 7, 22. He said he couldn't remove because too far in but to get used timing cover at $700.00 added. But will need to order it, he didn't charge anything yet. Also, water pump was leaking, the tow truck driver pull my out park stop it was not leaking, I really needed a honest shop there have now five shops, will get that meter, yet my van is still, trying to put back, and I didn't ask to remove yet but wanted diagnostic done and check bbb, review. I question they some else I can do.
P.O. I know there was a problem, can't drive it 20mpg.
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Tuesday, June 7th, 2022 AT 2:50 PM
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Okay, I can see the water pump bolts onto the Timing Chain Cover. The water pump is probably leaking because of the missing bolt. I'm not sure why he can't drill out the broken bolt and re-tap the whole with new threads and get a little bigger bolt to put in there. That's what I would do. $700.00 is a lot for a timing cover, all due to one broken bolt? That's going to be $2,000.00 for a water pump. What were they going to do for the $1,300.00?
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Tuesday, June 7th, 2022 AT 7:01 PM
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AAmco diagnostic is corrode wires on the wire harness near training, if add wiring diagram it's C122 it's a lot backorder a week, maybe 2-3 days to complete, as for the water pump, he put back on not leaking yet there still one bolt there.
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Friday, June 10th, 2022 AT 1:36 PM
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So, I checked connected onboard computer, found faults, ignition circuit, EGR circuit and coolant temperature sensor, connect C102 severe corrosion and thermal damage. Replacing harness then retest. My question is, should I stay with or go to the Dodge dealership? Because this sounds serious their price $2,904.80 labor $675.00 have two weeks for ordering, the dealership have to make appointment I week out. Thank you!
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Friday, June 10th, 2022 AT 2:06 PM
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C102 is a 10-pin connector and what they call thermal damage is a melted connector. It looks like they intend on replacing the entire engine wiring harness because they probably can't find the high resistance area that caused the connector to melt. The dealership is not going to give you a payment plan like you mentioned earlier. The price will be the same or higher because labor at dealerships is usually higher. Most likely a bad Ground or Power feed is causing the heat that melted the connector.
The Totally Integrated Power Module which is usually on the driver side in the engine compartment powers almost everything in this vehicle. It would help if you checked the back of all the Fuse panels in the vehicle for any water intrusion. Including the Fuse panels inside the vehicle as well.

One thing you can tell the mechanic to do, is if there was a melted connector, they should use a thermal camera to look for hot spots in the vehicle. It is a very effective way to find other bad connectors/ connections that would cause an ECM connector to melt. It is a new way of diagnosing issues like this. It will speed up the whole process.
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Friday, June 10th, 2022 AT 2:10 PM
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Okay, I have to another payment plan credit is $800 for 90 days, yes true they don't, yet my electronic control is crazy, the panel were push to open side door will not open, light flashes or turn off, new battery key fob will not open until very close then other open far away, manager engine online is sometime $800.00. Okay more. What about PCM control module for engine control and transmission, is the near driving tire PCM engine computer ECM, ECU programmed plug and play is not the ECM electronic control is that near air filter, also will call them tomorrow.
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Friday, June 10th, 2022 AT 4:49 PM
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The component near the driver side tire I think you're meaning, that is the Totally Integrated Power Module, Its basically the Body Control Module, but it powers up everything. And they have a lot of problems and always have. They are on a Network with the Engine Control Module.

Just to give you an idea of the Computer network in your vehicle. Pages 1 and 2 is the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) and the Engine (Powertrain Control Module). Every Blue box on pages 1 to 4 is an Electronic Control Module in the Vehicle. Page 5 shows you more in depth what the TIPM does. If you notice on the top right is the Powertrain Control Module. Those 2 (in yellow) wires are the Network wires that run into the TIPM. From there all the other modules in the vehicle are connected to it. So, if there is a problem with the TIPM, all the data has to go through it to get to the Powertrain Control Module (ECM). It's very complex.

The ECM is near the TIPM, they are both on the driver side engine compartment,
So, if they are looking for a heat issue, using a thermal camera is a great method of finding hot spots that they wouldn't normally be able to see. Since there are so many different modules and things that can go wrong, that's probably why they just want to replace the wiring harness. They probably think it will be faster than trying to find the actual problem. It could be a loose connector anywhere causing heat issues.
But when they say a thermal event, that is caused by high resistance causing a heat buildup and that's how connectors melt.

This is why it's so difficult sometimes to find problems in newer vehicles. They are built too complex.
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Friday, June 10th, 2022 AT 5:34 PM

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