Timing chain replacement

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SATURNTECH9
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You shouldn't be using a ratchet to break that loose breaker bar's are used for that I like suggested before a 1/2" drive one that is over 24" long the longer the better. That electric impact gun that the guy at auto zone suggested at harbor freight isn't going to break loose that crankshaft pulley it isn't strong enough. If you want to waste your money and give it try you can. They are usually very tight I have taken a lot of them off I worked for saturn for over 16yrs so I have taken a ton of them out. Most of the time there very tight I have seen a few that wernt that tight but I think someone must have had that bolt out before. You can pick up a breaker bar and socket at harbor if you want. Keep looking for the flywheel holder if you see any tool trucks stop at the auto repair shops like a mac, snap on, matco, or a cornwell tools truck go see if they have one on there truck. If you want to leave me a donation all you have to do is start a new question title it donation and then where you would fill in the question part put this donation is for saturntech9.
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Thursday, April 30th, 2020 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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ST9:

You were absolutely right on the best method to remove that bolt - using a breaker bar with an extension is the best way (for the sake of it, I did try my neighbor's 7.5 Amp electric impact wrench and it didn't even touch it). Here was the setup (in case it helps someone else): I used all impact "grade" socket components just in case the torque would be too great. 21mm socket, (2) 8in socket extensions, 1/2in breaker bar and a 48" pipe. I set up two concrete pavers along side the car, placed the car's tire jack on top of them and raised it to the height of the bolt. Instead of a flywheel tool, which would have been ideal, I used the car jack's wrench as a stop in the flywheel (probably not ideal). I aligned everything and carefully cranked down on bolt and had it off in less than 10 seconds - amazingly easy. The flywheel came off without the special tool I signed out from Advanced Auto.

One note - where is the harmonic balancer on this thing? Is it on the other side?

Anyway, I removed the timing cover to reveal a slight horror. The two guides for the chain were nowhere to be found and the tensioner was half gone. Both sprockets had teeth that were worn down to nubs. Also, the chain really ground away at some of the surfaces and one of the guide bolts, leaving the remaining oil full of aluminum and other filings. Further, with all the metal filings in the oil, here is my plan from here - in addition to the head work above:

1. Drop the oil pan and drain all oil.
2. Replace the oil filter.
3. Clean the crankshaft housing, and valve cover housing and rocker arm/cam shaft housing.

Also, what is that component on the inside of the timing cover, sandwiched between the cover and a bolted on casing (where the crankshaft bolt and lower sprocket go through)?

It really feels good to get the bolt off and obviously, could not be done without your help. Thanks.
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Thursday, April 30th, 2020 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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You already removed the harmonic balancer thats what was held on by the 21mm bolt sounds like a great plan. The part your asking about in the front cover is the oil pump I would also removed the cover inspect the oil pump etc.I recommend getting a pci timming set they have some good prices on ebay the sets come with gears chain tenisor and guides.I could even recommend a seller on ebay that I got a timming set from for a saturn if you want.I also recommend you use permatex ultra grey silicone to reseal the oil pan and the font cover. Also get coolant that is phosphate free.
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The timing set is about 63.
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