Brake light not working

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DOMINIC16
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  • 2008 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY
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My high mounted third brake light stops working. It works on and off.I think there's a loose connection. I can not figure out how to get to it to check it.I need to find a way to get to it to either replace the light or to make sure it's not a connection problem.I have tried several ways to remove it without any luck.
Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 AT 7:55 AM

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Tiny
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The bulbs are led and the whole CHMSL must be replaced as a unit. You have to open liftgate take off panel then spoiler here are pics.

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Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 AT 8:42 AM
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Need to remove liftgate panel see diagrams
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Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 AT 8:45 AM
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KEN L
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Here are the wiring diagrams and a guide to help you see what the problem is. The power to the third brake light comes from the TIPM and there are many fuses that run it. First see if the brake light is getting power at the light.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

then check the fuses,

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

Here is the fuse location and the diagrams (below)

If all of the fuses are good then its most likely the TIPM is going out which they had problems with. A shop will need to program the unit unit in.

Please let us know what you find.

Cheers, Ken
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Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 AT 2:32 PM
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2006 chrysler town and country rear brake lights not working. Upper brake light is working rear turn signals not working. Rear running lights work?
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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Have you tried changing the bulbs?
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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LUIS.10
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The third center brake light is not working I changed the light bulb, but still does not work. I also think the fact it does not work is that my check engine light has come on. I don not know if it is the connecting or what.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I doubt the light has anything to do with the check engine light. Have a professional scan for codes because this may be a tpim module problem. The brake light switch sends power to the tpim then to the light. Only a local professional can scan for this. Also check engine problems will also come up.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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I did check it out, but the only code the found was Brake Switch problem, but the funny part is that I changed it twice and when I went back the second time they told me that it may be the car's computer which I may need to change. Plus as I said I changed the bulb in the third brake light and it does not turn on. So I do not know what the problem may be.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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That is what a tpim module is, the car's computer and it runs the third brake light that is why it does not work.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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LUIS.10
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So with the tpim module down, how could we make it work?
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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You can see by the picture it may already be wired direct, so see if power is going to the light then backtrack wire to see if it is broken. If no power, if power is there then check the ground wire which is in lift-gate.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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The brake light on the driver side works and the middle top brake light works, but the one on the passenger side does not. I have changed the bulbs 2 times and still does not work. All lights are ok!@

thanks
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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If after replacement the bulb does not work, I would recommend checking the contacts in the bulb connector. The connectors will sometimes develope burn marks on their contacts where they meet the bulb. Look in the bulb connector. Do you see any burn marks, corrosion, etc? If you do you can try using a small piece of fine grit sand paper to clean up the contacts. Also pry the contacts out slightly to make sure they are making a solid connection. If this does not work you will need to check if there is voltage to the connector. This will require a voltage test light ($10) or a multi meter ($50+) from your local auto parts store. Using a test light, connect it to a good ground and with the brake pedal depressed touch the test light tip to the positive contact in the bulb connector (you can touch it to both if your not sure which one it is). If your test light lights up you have power at the connector, if not you will need to trace the circuit back to where you have power.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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Thank you HMAC300 I will check it out to see when I open the box if thats the problem. You been a great help. I hope I can find the problem.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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Am I suppose to check the module or am I suppose to check out the wires somewhere else
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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Check tosee if wires leaving brake switch are sending power then check upper light and see if they are getting power
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:34 PM (Merged)
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I have a 2002 Chrysler T&C with a 3.8 motor. I have 106m miles and my brake lights aren't working. Even worse, I figured out this morning that it effects my cruise. I hit my brakes to turn off my cruise and it didn't turn off my cruise!

The fuse is good and the bulbs are good. Do I have some sort of relay in the fuse box for brake lights or could it be the switch somewhere on the brake pedal itself?

Thanks you in advance for your help.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:36 PM (Merged)
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Check for blown fuses and the brake light switch which is on the pedal.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:36 PM (Merged)
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My lower brake lights went out at the same time. The upper brake light still works. I tired replacing the bulbs with no luck. Tried replacing the brake switch, also no luck. Could it simply be a fuse (where would I find it)? Please help.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:37 PM (Merged)
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The highmount brake lamp and lower brake lamps get voltage from the same fuse. So I don't think the problem is the fuse.

At the lower brake lites, white wire with tan tracer is voltage, so use a test light and check for voltage, brake pedal depressed, if no voltage we will have to backtrack circuit. There is a splice on that circuit, may have to find that splice if no voltage.
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Friday, May 29th, 2020 AT 2:37 PM (Merged)

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