Power steering problems?

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When it locks up it doesn't stall, usally at low rpm, you can shut it off start it back up and its fine. This only happens when its below 45deg. Cold start up is super stiff half turn one way than the other and its fine, has a new pump. Super quiet
Thursday, November 13th, 2014 AT 2:15 PM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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It sounds like the rack and pinion is bad. Have you checked it for leaks? Check to see if there is PS fluid leaking where the inner tire rods are covered by a rubber boot. Many times the seal goes bad, causes a stiff steering, and when you loosen the boot, it is full of PS fluid.

Let me know what you find. Also, make sure the belt is tight on the PS pump.
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Thursday, November 13th, 2014 AT 4:08 PM
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THOMAS R. SCOTT
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I had a lot of power steering pump noise, especially when cold. It never goes away when hot. Replaced power steering pump and it was quiet for a week now same as before replacement. It sounds like when you turn the wheel all the way to one side and pressure goes to max. Is there anything in the steering that regulates the pressure?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:19 AM (Merged)
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There is a pressure relief valve but that should be in the pump so it should be new, too.
You may have a clog in one of the lines. I would disconnect each line at both ends and blow some air threw the lines using an air compressor and a rubber tipped blow gun. Try around 90 psi.
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:19 AM (Merged)
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My power steering pump started making a lot of noise which was becoming worse. I replaced the power steering pump and it
was quiet for seven days and then began to get a little noisy after that and after three weeks was just as noisy as the old PS pump.
It sounds like when the pressure is at max as if you turned the steering all the way to either side. It is worse when cold but never goes away. Is there any type of pressure regulator or valve that could be stuck?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:20 AM (Merged)
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Good morning.

Did you flush the system completely before replacing the pump?

I would start by flushing the power steering system to get rid of all dirt.

Also, the fill tank. I would remove it and clean it all out of old fluid and debris. Then install and add fluid and re bleed the system.

Roy

3.3L/3.8L
1. Remove cap from power steering fluid reservoir.
2. Using a siphon pump, remove as much power steering fluid as possible from power steering fluid reservoir.
3. Open retainer on side of reservoir and remove cables from retainer.
4. Remove clamp attaching supply hose to power steering fluid reservoir. Disconnect hose from reservoir (Figure 1).
5. Remove clamp attaching return hose to power steering fluid reservoir. Disconnect hose from reservoir (Figure 1).
6. Remove bolts and nut securing reservoir in place (Figure 1).
7. Remove reservoir.
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:20 AM (Merged)
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I had the alternator fail on the car, so I changed it. When I put the new alternator in I noticed the pully was longer with a bigger counter balance on the end. But the belt still lined up when I installed it. Now when the car is running, and the ac turns on or the power steering pump has to work I get a growling noise in that area
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:21 AM (Merged)
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Do you mean the pulley is larger in diameter?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:21 AM (Merged)
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The pully doesn't appear to be. The pully lines up with the belt, but it has an extra weight or counter balance on the end of it that sticks out a 1/2 inch farther on the end of the pully
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:21 AM (Merged)
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My dodge caravan is making a winding noise upon start up and on acceleration and deacceleration. We have had mechanics diagnose the sound and have told us it is the powering steering pump or it could be the resevoir.
Problem is, we have already replaced it.
There are no check engine lights on, but we have also been told it could be the tensior pulley.
I need some help with this.
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:21 AM (Merged)
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Remove the serp belt and spin the pulleys. If it's the tensioner, you should hear something, and make sure there is no play in the bearing. As far as the pump, it could be the noise, but is will worsen when you turn the steering when stopped. Is there a noticeable difference when turning the wheel?

Joe
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:21 AM (Merged)
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My power steering pump makes a terrible noise at start up then slowly goes away after warming up. Is there any thing I can try before replacing pump?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:22 AM (Merged)
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I never heard of any additive that can quiet a noisy steering pump down, just check its fluid. It may be low, I've heard of changing it, but never saw it quiet a loud steering pump gear or front bearing.

I would try to flush the pump first here is a video to show you how on a similar car with the instructions in the diagram below to show you how on your car.

https://youtu.be/n665wQQq8tI

and

https://youtu.be/MtHG4y_rdMI

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:22 AM (Merged)
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Hi,

Common issue with these vans is the filter in the power steering resvoir gets clogged and prevents normal fluis flow in the system.

You can replace the resevoir to remedy this, or what I did as my van has some 92,000 miles was to gently put a long thin phillips screwdriver down the throat of the resevoir at 90 degree intervals and gently dislodged the filter to allow for normal fluid flow.

You may also need to add fluid to the proper level.

For me, this corrected the problem immediately, and that was about 3 months ago now.

Dave
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:22 AM (Merged)
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I had this problem got a new pump for 132.00 all fixed! Great site BTW
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:22 AM (Merged)
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Mine is a Grand Caravan 3.3L similar to 3.8L (has an automatic tensioer for belt) The powersteering pump is connected to non detachable braket ( the earlier models have a separate braket to hold the pump).
How do u remove the pump? As far I could find out it is only attached with 3 bolts. Do you access the bolts through the disc?
Any pictures as well?
What is the size of the bolts?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)
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Yes you go from the front and through the pulley
just line up the hole in the pulley with the mounting bolt
its 13 mm bolt head in some rear case they used 10mm
good luck
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)
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My mechanic told me I needed a PSP. It does not leak, but, it whines almost constantly. He told me he could drain the fluid and seal it. This might stop the whining. If it does not leak, why would he seal it? Would you seal it first?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)
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Just because it's not leaking visually doesn't mean it is not leaking internally of the pump. Honestly I would just have pump replaced. May try searching local salvage yards and web sites such as ebay. Com for a used steering pump to save some $$$
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)
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Hi!
Steering pump was changed on my 3.3: V6 (similar to 3.8L) due to squeeking noice.
The squeeking noicse continous when turning the steeringwheel. The container is filled to the maximum when engine is off.
Why is there still a squeeking noice? Does it still contain air in the system? If so how EXACTLY do you air it? The description of airing is basically. Lid on. Keep the wheels straight for a while and then turn them left and right without hitting the end of turn. What to do?
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)
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Does it still contain air in the system? If so how EXACTLY do you air it?

BLEEDING THE SYSTEM TO REMOVE AIR

After filling the system, you will have to bleed the system to remove trapped air. This is done by raising the front wheels off the ground, then slowly turning the steering wheel from side to side six to 10 times with the engine off. Do not turn the wheel too rapidly or allow the pump reservoir to run dry. Continue cycling the steering back and forth until no more bubbles can be seen in the fluid reservoir, and the reservoir level remains steady.

Next, disable he ignition and crank the engine over several times while observing the fluid in the pump reservoir. If you see any bubbles or foaming, continue cycling the steering wheel back and forth (engine off) until all of the air is out of the system. Make sure the fluid reservoir is full when you have finished.

On some systems, the use of a power steering pump air evacuator (Devac tool) is required to purge the air from the system.

Other probable area could be a rack and pinion
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Monday, July 27th, 2020 AT 9:23 AM (Merged)

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