Plymouth volager

Have you had any other problems before this with the van? My first guess is that the battery is either dead or the connections are corroded. I know it seems silly, but bad connections can do it. Removing the clamps to the battery and cleaning everything with a wire brush might get you running again.

What prompted you to change the relay switches?

As for the starter location it depends on the engine in your van. The most likely area is the front driver's side, at least on the V-6 engines. Starters don't usually just die without warning however.

A little more information as to engine type and size and any history of problems might help narrow things down a little.

I have a 4cyc engine manuel front wheel drive plymouth voyager minivan 1990 I don't think it is the battery because the inside lights and radio and etc. Still work when the ignition is on, when you turn the key it is completely dead no power at but inside the cab? Go firure help please shanas with the van? My first guess is that the battery is either dead or the connections are corroded. I know it seems silly, but bad connections can do it. Removing the clamps to the battery and cleaning everything with a wire brush might get you running again.

What prompted you to change the relay switches?

As for the starter location it depends on the engine in your van. The most likely area is the front driver's side, at least on the V-6 engines. Starters don't usually just die without warning however.

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On the 4 cylinder engines the starter is above the crossmember between the front wheels and close to the firewall. Not exactly the easiest thing to reach.

The lights stay on when you hit the key? Then the connections are probably fine. The starter relay is first in the list of checks, but it sounds like you replaced that. Next is the actual connections to the starter but it's behind a heat shield. They are probably fine, but it wouldn't hurt to clean them and try it again. Most likely the starter solenoid is bad? I'm guessing since I don't have a mechanical degree, I'm just a long time Chrysler guy that fixes my own cars 90% of the time. I'd put my money on a bad starter solenoid. They can be replaced but a rebuilt starter is probably the best bet. No use going through all that knuckle busting to put in an old starter with a new solenoid.

You will have to move the Air pump tube out of the way, remove a couple of bolts from the heat shield, and a clamp to get to the starter. All while you are working around the front crossmember. I can't say it's going to be fun.