P0430 code (hole in Exhaust Manifold)

Tiny
GINALANGSTON1
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  • 2000 FORD F-150
  • 4.2L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 240,000 MILES
Okay at one time I was showing that my #5 Cyl. Had a misfire but now my FIXD scanner is only reading a P0430 code so I got under there and checked everything out, as well as hooking up a shop vac to the tail pipe to check for leaks, that is when I discovered a large hole in my Exhaust Manifold, as well as a Few small pin size holes in different areas on my pipes. It runs rough and of course it is putting out exhaust fumes, however it does not sound to me like my Catalytic converter is bad, as it is noisey but not as noisey as "I think" it should be if it was not working. Anyways, My Question is What would of caused a Big hole in my Exhaust Manifold? As well as the little holes on my pipes where there are seams. And would having that hole cause me to need a new catalytic converter as well or do you think that if I just sealed up the little holes and replaced my Exhaust manifold, could that possibly fix my p0430 code? Without having to replace the cat as well? I just dont want to take it to a shop and Pay them to replace my Exhaust manifold and then they turn around and try telling me I need a new Cat as well, if I dont. And if I do I would do that part myself. If my Cat is clogged would that be the cause of hole in my manifold?
Tuesday, November 9th, 2021 AT 7:04 PM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

The P0430 indicates the bank 2 catalytic converter is operating below a pre-determined threshold. In nearly all cases, the converter will need to be replaced due to internal deterioration.

Now, in the V6 engine, there should be an upstream oxygen sensor (one) in each exhaust manifold. Are they present or could the hole you see be where the sensor should be? Also, the code, P0430 is specific to bank 2. (See pic 1 below) That will be the left side of the engine (driver's side). Is that the manifold that has the hole in it?

As far as converter replacement, you can do it yourself. However, I don't know about the small holes you are referring to. Is it possible for you to take a few pics of what you are seeing and upload them for me to see? Also, take a picture of the catalytic converter and exhaust manifold as well.

Let me know.

Joe

See pic below.
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Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 AT 8:42 PM
Tiny
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Hi again. Thanks for your reply. Attached you find the pics that you requested, the first one being of my driver's side exhaust manifold that had the big hole in it where the circle is, as you can see, I tried to patch it but still leaks, along with the second pic of my catalytic converter, which please note that when I first found the hole in exhaust manifold my cat did not have the copper toned color on it as it does now in pic. All the blue arrows point to where there were leaks, as you can see, they are mostly in the seams (or where pipes joined together. And all the junk on it is where I tried patching them.
But now since then, another problem has occurred. I lost my keys for about a month so I couldn't drive it, then last week, I called over a lock smith to come out and re key my ignition and when he finished doing so and programming it with his little computer, I drove it just across the street to laundry mat, and it drove and sounded just like it did before (exhaust leaks) but now when I got in it and drove back home (right across the street) it acted real weird when in reverse and then started making a loud engine sound I never heard before until I got home and shut it off. I am thinking that that is when my catalytic converter went out and turned the copper color it did. Anyways I decided to check my oil and transmission fluids as I always paid close attention to regularly and found that my coolant reservoir was empty, and my oil was now milky. But what I do not understand is how did a get a blown head gasket while my truck just had been sitting and it never once overheated? When the truck first was sitting the oil was fine. No water in it. What do you think is the reason behind all of this and what should I do? Please help. First the big hole in exhaust manifold, now blown head gasket and is there anything that someone could have done to it while it was sitting to cause the water in my oil? Please help me!
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Thursday, March 31st, 2022 AT 9:05 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

The manifolds really should be replaced or welded. As far as the coolant in the oil is concerned, that is most likely a head gasket. You could perform a few tests to see if there is an indication that supports that idea. Take a look through this link. It explains how to test engine compression. If there is a head gasket issue, you will discover compression
issues in one or more of the cylinders.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

Also, take a look through this link as well. It explains different ways to determine if there is an issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe
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Thursday, March 31st, 2022 AT 1:58 PM

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