My muffler is making a noise after I turn the car off

Tiny
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My muffler has been making noises as soon as my car is turned off. It first sounds like a small rattle noise, than it disappears and sounds like there is small stones or pebbles inside it. I just had some exhaust welding done in August and I noticed after the exhaust gets hot, normal engine temperature, I turn the car off and hear a low pitch rattling noise coming from the back of my muffler. It only lasts a couple of seconds. Any ideas? The entire exhaust system isn’t old. I just replaced the catalytic converter due to a rot hole and had sections of new pipe welded on to the new catalytic converter from bad quality repairs before. The muffler has normal wear and minor rust around it, but is only 3 years old so that is to be expected from wear.

Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 1:35 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

If it's the muffler, something is likely loose. Are you able to recreate the sound once it cools off if you tap on the system? Also, are you certain that it's the muffler and not the catalytic converter? The insides of the catalytic converter can come loose.

Also, check to see if there are any loose clamps.
Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 1:58 PM
Tiny
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Yes, I am certain that it is the muffler because that’s where the noise is coming from when engine is off. But glad you mention clamps, I did check rear muffler clamps and hangers and they seem to be tight and not loose. Also when you say the insides of the catalytic converter can come loose, do you mean like the outer heat shield cover that surrounds the catalytic converter? This is a new converter and it should not be making any noise.
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 2:03 PM
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Hi,

The internal portion of the catalytic converter can come loose and rattle. If it is in the muffler, then either when it was apart something got into it or something has come loose inside since the work was done.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 2:17 PM
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In this video you can see what seems to be making the noise when vehicle is off. All other portions of exhaust is okay. Catalytic converter outer cover is tight and not loose. It’s the muffler that is making the noise.
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 2:47 PM
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In this video the hangers seem to tight but the muffler moves back and forth. Is it supposed to have some tension making the muffler have some movement back and forth When I rock it or hangers are probably getting worn?
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 2:49 PM
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And for the catalytic converter. It’s new and nothing seems to be loose, cover heat shield is also tight. When I smack on the catalytic converter it makes noise from the back muffler which I said in the first videos with the muffler.
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 2:54 PM
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Hi,

It's hard for me to tell what I'm hearing simply because I hear you tap on it only. It does appear to be bumping under the bumper, but that wouldn't explain why you hear it with the engine off.

As far as the hanger, that is normal. It's mounted on rubber and it's meant to move like that.

I know that steel will make a noise when it cools and contracts. Is that what you hear or does it seem to be something in the exhaust? Other than it may be hitting the underside of the bumper, I see nothing out of place.

Let me know.
Joe
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Tuesday, October 6th, 2020 AT 6:22 PM
Tiny
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Hi Joe, I wanted to reach out to let you know the status of the noise. The rattling and vibration when the vehicle is in drive, reverse or in park when started doesn’t really seem to be much of a problem anymore, it just seem to disappear. It’s just the low pitch noise, like for example if you were tapping on a can very quietly or hearing a very low pitch coming from a horn that’s what it sounds like. I think maybe it’s the metal cooling down because it’s been welded and the metal hasn’t finally got used much yet or maybe there is rust inside.

Now, I don’t know if it’s true, but when I drive, I can hear my muffler rattle in the rear like it’s loose. But I know it’s not because I checked and retighten the hanger bolts as tight as I can. So could that be maybe the muffler hangers are getting worn? I don’t know if I mention this, but when I first had the muffler replaced back in 2017 it never made any noise. Last year it started after the cat was replaced. Nothing seems out of alignment.I only am hearing that sound as soon as you turn the vehicle off after you drive it. Then after while when it sits the sound will stop.
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 9:24 PM
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Hi,

Nice to hear from you. It sounds like an issue with the inside of the catalytic converter or muffler. They can come loose and make noise. The components (exterior) are tight, but the noise comes from inside. Or, it can be coming from a loose heat shield on the exhaust.

Now, have a helper take a rubber mallet ad tap on the exhaust (start at rear) while you listen to see if you can hear the noise. Do this with the engine off.

If you look at the attached pic, it shows how the internal components can fail.

You mentioned earlier that the sound came from back near the muffler. Check back there and see if you can confirm the sound. If you can record it and upload it for me to hear, it will help. You should be able to record it with your phone.

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, January 11th, 2021 AT 11:33 AM
Tiny
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Hi thanks for getting back to me. The catalytic converter was replaced last year. Could newly installed catalytic converters have bad insides? It's brand new and I am not hearing any noise from the front, it's just the rear. I don't hear the rattling or shaking at idle, or in gears like I used to which I mention in the beginning of this discussion. That seemed to fade. Only thing I hear now is coming from the rear. When I tap the exhaust pipe and the catalytic converter, they seem quiet and the only noise I can hear is coming from the rear of the vehicle. As soon as I tap on the exhaust pipe and catalytic converter, you can hear the muffler from the back, tapping against the bumper.

Now when I drive it, the muffler makes noises in the back, like a noise for example, if it was loose. I looked at all brackets, heat shields and hangers are tight. I did notice that the muffler hangers are starting to dry rot. I also still hear that low pitch noise I told you about that sounds like metal vibrating, that's coming from the muffler too. I listen and hear it coming from inside the muffler as soon as I shut the vehicle off after a couple of seconds it starts doing it, than after a couple of mins the sound stops like if the metal inside the muffler just stopped. I never had the problem before the cat was replaced. The shop told me that the muffler shop who installed the muffler and exhaust pipe before cut into the factory pipe that was weld to the catalytic converter. They had to weld new sections of pipe on to the new cat because half of the pipe was too short to fit the new catalytic converter. I am thinking maybe the exhaust is out of alignment. But I don't know if that could cause odd noises you can't find.
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Thursday, February 4th, 2021 AT 9:45 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

The muffler can also come apart internally. However, are you sure the exhaust isn't bumping under the vehicle? I'm asking because you mentioned the tail pipe bumping the bumper. Move everything around under the vehicle. Push the exhaust up and down and side to side to see if anything is hitting.

Let me know.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
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Thursday, February 4th, 2021 AT 3:59 PM

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