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Tiny
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  • 2004 SATURN ION
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After driving normally car will not go into gear. Gearshift will move all around and I can see the linkage below moving. But it's like it's not moving anything. There is no resistance moving forward and backwards. Shifter will stay in either forward or after position and stay. Both during off and running.
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 7:50 PM

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Tiny
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So can you see the linkage on the transmission moving?
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:02 PM
Tiny
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1G8AZ52F34Z173029 is the vin
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:09 PM
Tiny
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When I push it forward I can see the rod extend. I'm working on my own so I can't watch it. But it appears to be moving the linkage
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:10 PM
Tiny
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Just used a video to confirm. Linkage does move the arm on the transmission when I move it front to back.
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:13 PM
Tiny
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Alright if the linkage is moving on the inside doesn't mean it's moving on the transmission. Cable ends break retaining clips pop off etc.
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:17 PM
Tiny
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First movement is front to back. And then pushing towards 1st and second and front and back
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:21 PM
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Can't get the video to upload. I can email it if that helps.
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:32 PM
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If your linkage is moving is your clutch working?
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 8:58 PM
Tiny
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Push the clutch to start. I can just do circles with the shifter. The H pattern isn't there. It doesn't grind or anything even I'm searching for a gear either. With the car on off clutch depressed or at rest
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 9:01 PM
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If you can't feel the h pattern and you can't feel it shift into each gear something is wrong with the linkage itself I wish I see/feel what was going on with the shifter.
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Saturday, August 27th, 2016 AT 9:26 PM
Tiny
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You think there is an issue with the linkage even though it's moving the arm on the transmission? I could shoot a video of moving it but it's too long to upload. I could upload it to a website and post a link if that would help.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 4:42 AM
Tiny
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Update: linkage all seems to be in tact it moves the selector arm front to back side to side on the tranny. I moved it by hand all around and it moves like butter. Shouldn't there be resistance when I move it on there?
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 5:10 AM
Tiny
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You said there is no H pattern?You should shift it into first second etc and the shifter inside stay there?Iam Confused on what's going on?It's really hard because I can't shift it or see or feel anything.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 7:52 AM
Tiny
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I took apart the shift fork and found the bolt that runs thru it into the shaft going into the tranny Is broke in 3 pieces so when it moves forward and backwards the shaft doesn't move with it
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 7:58 AM
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This bolt is broke. I'm having issues removing the part lodged in there
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 8:01 AM
Tiny
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I had a feeling it was the linkage that's a bolt snapped off?If so you can try to use s punch to spin it out or a reverse drill bit to spin it out.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 9:04 AM
Tiny
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Just drilled the bolt out that was in there. Now just trying to find a roll pin to put in its place.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 2:50 PM
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You drilled the threads out also?If so why?A reverse drill bit usually bites the bolt and spins it out.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 3:33 PM
Tiny
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The threads were pretty mangled. If the pin doesn't hold I may drill it out slightly bigger and tap it for a new bolt. Do you not think a roll pin will hold?
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 3:35 PM
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No I wouldn't use a roll pin there not designed to do that. Get a helicoil kit and put new threads in there make sure you get the one that comes with the drill bit and tap. That's how I would fix it the right way.
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Sunday, August 28th, 2016 AT 3:38 PM

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