Engine Won't Idle?

Tiny
LASHAWNNULL
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  • 1999 JEEP CHEROKEE
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  • 12,300 MILES
The day after I purchased this jeep it stalled as I was slowing down for a stop light. It started right back up and was ok other than idling a little rough at stops and some smoke coming out of the exhaust. On the way home from work that day the check engine light came on. The code said I needed to replace the upstream o2 sensor. I installed the new sensor, started it up and let it sit and idle for about 15 minutes. The check engine light was gone and it was great, no more smoke and the idle was very smooth, no more missing or erratic rpm's. Shut it off but restarted about an hour later to move it in the carport to replace the battery terminals that were trashed. I was having no problems with the battery but they were cracked and looked like they'd been beat with a hammer. I discovered that these were the terminals that had the cables attached which are not the kind I had purchased so I connected the terminals back up and decided to wait on them another day. When I started the vehicle it died immediately. That's what it's done every time since. I can keep it running if I keep my foot on the accelerator but its smoking again, a lot. When I do keep it running, most times the idle is erratic, jumping a few hundred rpm's then back down, and up again. There have been a few times that it's stayed running on it's own if I let my foot off the gas real slow but it hangs at 2 or 300 rpms and jumps up to 4 or 5 then back down like its going to die, then back up again. I put a load on the engine by turning on the ac but the idle doesnt move accordingly. As soon as I try to put it into gear, it dies. I spent days searching for a vacuum leak or loose connection somewhere to no avail. One odd thing I discovered is there are no relays in the PDC for either o2 sensor. Also, I found in the repair manual that when you replace a part relating to the exhaust system you need to have the codes cleared before you start the vehicle so I risked driving in to town to a shop but there were no codes to clear out. They cleaned the throttle housing and searched for a vacuum leak, still the same situation. Did I interrupt the process of the computer "relearning" the parameters by disconnecting the battery? Everything was great after the o2 sensor installation until I disconnected the battery. What could have gone wrong? By the way, she ran fine when I drove her to town, very smooth, lots of power and only smoked when I first started out but again, I had to keep my foot on the gas when slowing down or stopping. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated!
Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 AT 9:49 PM

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Tiny
CJ MEDEVAC
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See my profile,

Maybe this will help you, check engine light on? These guides can help us

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/stall-at-idle

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Respond if this helps!

The Medic
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Wednesday, September 22nd, 2010 AT 11:47 PM
Tiny
HURLJ6731
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Jeep will start but will not stay running without giving gas. Has a new battery, could it be theiac, tps or ecm?

Thanks Jim
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Clean out the Idle air control valve,and this guide can help us

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/idle-air-control-valve-service

Here is the valve location for your car.

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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HURLJ6731
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Thank you so much the IAC was so dirty! All clean now and running great! This site rocks I cant believe it is free.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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I can not get it to idle when I give it the gas for about three seconds or so. Then it goes back down to normal. Latly it has been hard to start, not sure it it related.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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Sounds to me that you may need to clean out your throttle body. Is it hard to start on cold starts or warm starts?

Also if you run the car and shut it off does it do it if restarted a few hours later? Does it do it if shut off and turned back on instantly?
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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KATHY TRAVIS
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Jeep Cherokee Sport 1999. Starts ok but will not keep idleing with out pressure on gas petal.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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It could be the iac or the tps but I would like to know what the fuel pressure is
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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KATHY TRAVIS
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What is a iac or the tps and the fuel pressure? Your replying to someone who knows nothing about cars. My x husband always took care of these things!
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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JNOVACK
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The IAC is the Idle air controll valve and the TPS is the throttle position sensor and the fuel pressure is what the fuel pressure is at the fuel injectors the probblem could also be the fuel pressure regulator
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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MARCIEMOUSE
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213,000 miles 6 cyl. Car stalls when you put in reverse and right turns. Also stalled on the highway while doing 70 mph. (Scary) Had emissions done 2 weeks ago (passed) Check engine light has been on for a couple of months, also the gas gauge has not worked in a long time either. Catalytic converter maybe? Fuel pump? Please help!
Thank you!
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The first thing is the check engine light - been on for a couple of months. Hmmm. The light is telling you that there is a problem in the Emissions and engine control system, as determined by the "Engine computer/Powertrain Control Module". If the fault was just a glitch the PCM would have cleared the light after the problem wasn't detected anymore - it didn't.
Your Jeep has a diagnostic connector that will allow the computer-generated trouble codes to be read by a scanner, telling you what area(s) the computer says you have a problem in. Go to your local Autozone and have the codes read by them for FREE! If no autozone, call the local parts stores to see which one will do it for free. Your diagnostic system is called "OBD-II". The connector should be located at/under the bottm of the dash near the steering column, and is "oval/trapezoidal" shaped with two rows of pins, 8 in each row. Autozone can tell you what the fault codes mean - it won't guarantee a fix, but will point you in a direction.
Gas guage - possible sending unit problem from float in fuel tank, broken wire. Goes from tank to gauge.
If you can start and drive it, then the fuel pump is probably ok, just shutting down due to computer problems. Computer can also shut down ignition system - no spark. Get the codes! Please post what you find out/fix for other folks to learn from! Good luck.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:14 AM (Merged)
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JAK SKRILLA
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My vehicle is a Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo.
It is hard to start, you constantly have to keep giving it gas for it to stay running. The mechanic did a pressure test and cylinder six tested at 26, but rocker arm fell off and was laying inside. All the other cylinders tested between 125-130. I know I have to put this back on, but I think my problem may be a little more. The mechanic said he do not know much about working on valves, and just did the pressure test, but I do not know why he did not just put a rocker on it. So now I am stuck trying to find out the problem. I put in a new lash adjuster for that cylinder and bought a new rocker arm. Guess I should get rocker arm first. Any help or suggestions.
I watched tons of YouTube videos, but it is not as easy as they make it appear to be, I could not just pop it on like they did. It is an overhead cam also.
Thanks in advance!
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You need a special tool to compress spring so you can put the rocker back on and make sure hydraulic lifter is full of oil. Also so you do not bend a valve you need to go to chart and make sure corresponding cylinder is put to top dead center before you install. We have no pictures of tool it is Chrysler 8516 so maybe auto parts may have similar to rent. See pictures.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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This is what the tool looks like, you don't just "pop" the rocker on as HMAC says you need to compress the valve spring.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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XTRATTITUDE4U
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I was testing the battery and radio wires today trying to figure out why the stereo doesn't work.
After giving up, we hopped in and the jeep wouldn't start.
I though I just drained the battery so I jumped it with my car.
It will turn over, but won't stay running.
If I hold my foot on the gas it will stay running, but the moment I take my foot off it instantly dies.
Could a bad battery cause this or maybe I fried the alternator?
What could be wrong?
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:32 AM (Merged)
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Did you disconnect the battery if so the computer has to relearn to target the idle speed
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:32 AM (Merged)
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XTRATTITUDE4U
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Yep! That was it. I put in a different battery and it started right up. I guess at first it wasn't getting enough power to "learn" properly. Getting a new battery today since I discharged it to near zero.
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Thursday, October 15th, 2020 AT 11:32 AM (Merged)
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FLAYER656
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Engine Performance problem
1996 Jeep Cherokee 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Manual 125k miles

My Jeep won't start. Jumped it off, and it will stay running as long as the Rpms are up. When it drops to idle, it sputters and dies. While on and revving, all guages show normal, lights work, ect. After jump off and it dying, next morning, won't turn over. Battery seems drained. Father has suggested several parts that may be the problem, but I need to find what it is so I can fix it. He's suggested the fuel filter, alternator, frozen fuel line, or old battery. I'm doubting the frozen fuel line, but sure about the others.
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