2001 Isuzu Rodeo Question head gasket

Tiny
REDMURF1
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Looking at a used rodeo add said runs hot went to look owner said it overheats (might be head gasket) did not have tools to check plugs the engine ran rough when I cranked up the RPM's it really didn't smooth out let it run about 5 mins tail pipe was not pushing anything (no steam or black) when I wiped the inside of the tail pipe it was black soot and very tacky didn't seem to be water my question is is there any way to find out if it is just the head gasket without opening up (taking off the head) if that is my only option is there any specialty tools required besides torque wrench
Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 11:04 AM

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Tiny
MERLIN2021
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Go here and check out the block test video:
http://www.rxauto.com/demo.htm
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Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 11:06 AM
Tiny
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That is the lamest answer that will tell if something is leaking (#1 blown head gaskit#2 bad head #3 cracked block what a waist of my time and money NO THANKS
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Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 11:30 AM
Tiny
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Wow. Simply amazing. That video does a dandy job of showing what I try to explain.

Isn't it funny you gave redmurf1 exactly what they asked for and instead of politely asking for more information, they were rude an unappreciative? Kind of makes you wonder if anything could have made him happy.

To my knowledge, there are three ways to diagnose a leaking head gasket / cracked head. Look for white smoke from the exhaust, use the tool shown in the video, or tear the engine down. Apparently redmurf1 doesn't like any of those choices and is expecting you to come up with another alternative that hasn't been invented yet. He thinks he's going to learn something by removing spark plugs, doesn't have tools, and expects you to magically know the answer when you can't see, hear, touch, or smell anything about the vehicle. Boy, he must think you're good. Why then he would produce the disrespectful comment he did is beyond me.

I've gotten really bad answers from people whose job it is to sit behind a company computer 8 hours per day answering questions for trained dealership mechanics only. I would never tell them off. I would simply thank them and move on to someone else who has a better grasp of the situation. In redmurf1's case, he already got what is arguably the best answer anyone could have provided. It's all downhill from here.

Asking about special tools shows he is too lazy to look in a service manual. Redmurf1 would rather have you look up the information for him. It suggests he doesn't have the expertise to tackle such a complicated job. He would probably be money ahead to just let a professional do the work. By the time he buys the special tool and the parts, he still won't be guaranteed of doing the job right the first time. Does he know if this is an interference engine and what can happen if he screws up the valve timing? Does he have the equipment to check for a warped head or for cracks? Who gets the blame when he doesn't follow the proper procedures and screws something up? It's all there in the service manual, which he doesn't have.

Sometimes I worry that you guys will just give up trying to help people and will take your expertise and leave this forum. Then I remember the 99 out of 100 people who express gratitude for trying. Sometimes we even get one right and save people a lot of money. You deserve a big "thank you" for providing the best answer possible. Too bad you didn't get it from the clod it was meant for.

Caradiodoc
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Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 1:22 PM
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Caradiodoc, Did I forget the button on the dash? LOL!
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Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 3:08 PM
Tiny
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What is the answer you gave me to watch a video I am sorry I fended you But you didn't answer anything a simple no there is no way to tell witch it is until you open her up would of been fine. Cardiac arrest answered the real question by giving me some insight to the engine by the way C A I grew up on a farm in newgland have rebuilt every thing from a 2 cylinder John Deere to a 8 cylinder fro steam engine to diesel V8 V6 STRAIGHT 8, 6.4 ( ROTARY NO ) just a simple question you didn't have a "Freddy flip out" didn't want to jump from the frying pan to fire LOL good luck with those anger management classes
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Saturday, July 24th, 2010 AT 3:35 PM
Tiny
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Hey red if you bothered to watch the video, it explains that you DO NOT need to tear it down to see if it has an internal leak. A 25.00-50.00 block test of the radiator well show if there is a problem or not, shoot mouth off and insert foot!
Abe Lincoln once said " it is better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt".
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Sunday, July 25th, 2010 AT 9:32 AM

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