DOOR LOCKS UP AND DOWN AND THEN DON'T WORK?

Tiny
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Thanks for the quick reply.

I have attached a couple of pictures of the damage.

If I purchase the lock and door handle assembly at the GMC dealer is relatively easy to install in the door? I don't know exactly what the theives break when they stick the screw driver into the lock cylinder.

Great Service!


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/195664_DSC_0003_Large_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/195664_DSC_0008_Large_1.jpg

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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thank you for your help. I changed fuse block and all relay. So now its all fixed. Basically I didnt get power to rear unlock from fuse block.
Thank you very much.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You will need to remove the inner door panel to replace it, couple of screws and the panel pops off.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Remote door lock unlocks and locks driver side door sometimes and always locks and unlocks passenger side door. Is there a fix for this problem. Thank You, Fray
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Sounds like possibly a wiring issue in the umbilical between the door and the A-Pillar or the actuator is failing. It is also possible it is the driver's door relay.
I would look at the wiring first, a broken or breaking wire could be the issue. The actuator would be next. It is inside the door.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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My truck is the k3500(old style). Since I bought it, the electric mirrors don’t work, and the driver side door lock won’t operate from the door switch, and the driver window won’t go up or down at all. The windows for all other doors besides the drivers, go up and down fine from the drivers side controls. The locks work 80% time with the remote key FOB, but 20% of the time you can hear the locks try to lock/unlock, but they won’t fully lock/unlock. Almost like they are getting half power. I changed the door switch cluster, the door actuator, the window motor/regulator, and the mirror switch as well. No effect. I saw the posts about bad grounds and bad wiring through the door hinge area. I am getting 12v on both terminals at the window motor. If I jump 12v on one side and ground the other side it operates. So I ran all new ground wires from all the black wires in the door wiring harness back to a ground bolt on the body. Didn’t help
Also there was part of the door harness wiring that had its own plug connector in the body cavity behind the hood release arm that was totally corroded on almost all the terminals. So I cut out the plug and hard wired them (orange, white, black, gray, lt's blue, brown), this is also where I took the black wire and grounded it to the body.
Lastly the courtesy/dome lights don’t work and the ctsy fuse pops as soon as you put it in the fuse panel at the left side of the dash. Without the fuse in, one side is grounded, one side has constant 12v.
I have spent more hours than I care to count trying to figure this out.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

This is common when the drivers door ground is bad which is located by the upper left kick panel. here is a wiring diagram so you can see how the system works and the ground location with a guide to help you test it:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good morning,

Do you have a test light or voltmeter to do some testing at the master switch? I would prefer a voltmeter as I want to see if full voltage is coming as from the truck.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

The other issue is the wiring from the body. There is a rubber boot from the body to the door. Did you open the boot and insect the wires for any being damaged? Very common area of failure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

As far as the locks, the fact that they try to work tells me either there is low voltage to them or the rods may be rusty not allowing the new actuators to move freely.

Did you lube the rods for the locks?

Roy

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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have both a multi meter and a voltage probe/pen. I actually pulled out the entire wiring harness from the door and just inside the wall behind the hood latch handle. Inspected and only found one suspected wire. It was a white one from the bottom plug on the window/door controls. It didn’t help though. Reinstalled the whole harness and no change at all. Just checked a minute ago and there was also no 12v on the orange wire coming in. I do have 12v on the yellow. Both “circuit breakers” in the little panel with fuses at left side dash have continuity. And I did spray white grease on the rods but no effect. They are all are weak “evenly” when it doesn’t want to work. When it does, they all open and close “strong”. Also this is a Crew cab 4 door.
Really appreciate any help!
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, you need to go back to the fuse block for the locks. I asked you to check for voltage, not continuity. You need to test voltage on both sides of the fuse.

As far as the windows, what is the voltage to the yellow wire at the switch with the key on?

Roy
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Voltage is not present on either side where the larger 30a metal fuse goes for the locks at the fuse panel on the left side of the dash.
Voltage is 12.19 for the yellow wire at the plug for the driver window/door controls.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, looks like there is a voltage supply issue to the fuse. It is either the fuse box or the connector.

I attached a fuse diagram. The feed for that fuse comes from a 50 amp fuse in the under hood fuse panel.

Roy
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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A little background.

The guy who owned this before me was disabled and had some sort of chair lift in the bed. It was wired in super hokie under the dash and behind the hood latch. There was a loose red wire that came from the battery and didn’t seem to go anywhere so I pulled it out, and there was wiring that went to nowhere with odd relays and a self mounted switch on the dash. I pulled out all the loose wiring I could find that didn’t seem to go anywhere.
So I just doubled checked and it’s just the opposite what I thought. The breaker marked A is on top and the fuse diagram shows it as the pwr acc door locks. It has the 12.19 volts I was getting. The wires coming off the back of it are a thicker red and smaller orange. The breaker below it is breaker B and it is marked as the pwr acc window. It has no voltage on either side and has a thicker brown looking wire and a yellow coming off the back. The red wire is the one I’m getting 12.19v coming in.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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And to clarify further. I’m getting 12.19v on the yellow wire at the window/door controls and none on the orange. It’s like they were switched somewhere.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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No, they are not.

Those fuses need to be powered up.

As far as the feed for the orange wire, it comes from the 50 amp fuse. If you have power on the one side and not the other, use a jumper and see if it powers up the orange wire.

Roy
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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So I’m pulling these fuse/breakers out as I test the sockets where they plug into. I don’t see any way to test them while they are plugged in.
So I pulled the 30a pwr accy A breaker out and jumped from Red to orange just like the breaker itself would do. Still no power on the orange wire at the door harness for the window/door locks. The breaker should be fine. I assume it goes to the convenience center after that. And then to the wiring harness for the drivers door? Seems like something is acting up at the convenience center possibly?
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You have to get power across the 50 amp breaker first. Once that is restored, then it will power up the other fuse block and allow power to all the components that are controlled by the fuse block.

This is either a wire harness issue of the fuse block itself. Most likely it is a harness issue.

Roy
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks for your help Roy. I want to make sure we are understanding each other. There is power going through the 30a A breaker on top for the pwr accy that goes to the door locks. I even unscrewed the fuse block so I could test the voltage on the back with the breaker in it. Power Goes thru it, in from the red and goes out the orange wire, which I assume heads to the convenience center. After that there are at least a dozen orange wires that come out of it and can’t tell which one is which. Where I can test the orange wire before it goes into the door wiring harness. There is no voltage on it. This is testing behind the hood latch handle, kind of inside the wall cavity. Again, Before it goes into the door harness.
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I attached a diagram of the fuse panel for to view so you can check the correct pin number for power.

You either have a bad fuse block or a wiring issue between the fuse block and the door.

Roy
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Saturday, May 23rd, 2020 AT 9:51 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Those diagrams should be super helpful! Thanks again. I’ll let you know how it goes.
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