Instrument cluster fuel gauge

Tiny
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  • 2002 GMC SIERRA
  • 6.0L
  • V8
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 317,330 MILES
Yesterday, February 2nd, 2022, I installed a replacement actuator on the Driver side next to the accelerator petal. Before I installed the replacement actuator all gauges on my instrument panel were properly working.

When I went out this morning to my truck the fuel gauge needle was upside down. Attached is a picture I took with the engine running. It shows all other gauges working normally but you can plainly see the problem with the fuel gauge needle upside down.

I have two questions:
1. Is it possible I damaged the fuel gauge when I was replacing the actuator and caused this, although I do not recall any time when I had any tool in that part of the under dash, or is this just a coincidental case of the gauge going bad due to the age and mileage on the vehicle?

2. In order to correct this, will I need to replace the instrument cluster?

Thanks for your time.

Dudley 'Gunner' Garidel
Baton Rouge, LA
Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 AT 5:53 PM

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Tiny
AL514
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Hello, strange things do happen like this, but before we condemn the instrument cluster, how much of the wiring harness were you having to move around under the dash while replacing the actuator?
And what sub-model is this 1500, 2500, 2500 HD, 3500 etc.? I've got the 1500HD pulled up in Mitchell to look at the wiring diagrams. Since it's one of the sub-models that had 2wd.
And does this model have dual fuel tanks? I just want to make sure I've got the correct information here.
or you can give me the Vin# and I can look it by that.
You can start your checks by inspecting the connector on the back of the instrument cluster. If the harness got pulled on a bit if could be just a loose pin on the connector, I'd say the chances are the harness got pulled somewhat since you were working in that area. I don't think you damaged the cluster, so that pretty much just leaves a harness issue. I will pull up some instructions on getting to the back of the cluster to check the connector. It may have more than one back there and since these harnesses run all over the place, it's easy for something to have gotten moved and not really noticed. it's odd that it flipped upside down like that. But get me some more info on the truck so I can get the correct diagrams for you.
Was it reading just the opposite of what it is now, so around half a tank?

Ok so there are about 4 Technical Service Bulletins on issues with the Fuel gauge reading incorrectly. I posted the most relevant below. Just 2 of them, But it seems the Fuel sending unit is to blame for this TSB. Theyre calling it the Fuel level sensor, There might even be a code stored in the Engine computer or possibly the body control module. Since the cluster receives the Fuel tanks level through serial data and the rest of the gauges are working. It may be a fault with the Fuel level sensor. Ill post an example of one of the Codes it might set if the Fuel level sensor is faulty because it uses the sensor for misfire and Evap Data. So you may want to take the truck to your local parts store and they will scan the truck for free for diagnostic trouble codes. If there are none. Then you may go after checking the connections on the back of the cluster.
Why there failures happen like this, I dont know, We've had vehicles come in for an oil change and the ignition coil happens to quick right there at the shop. It could have something to do with unplugging connectors to get into different areas under the dash, and that disturbed something, but with a few TSBs like this, maybe the dealership has to replace the fuel level sensor for no charge, You would have to call and see.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring
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Friday, February 4th, 2022 AT 3:55 PM
Tiny
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Al, Wow! What a terrific answer you gave me. I can't thank you enough. In response to your questions, it is a 1500HD [has 8-wheel lugs], 2-wheel drive, one fuel tank.

Now here is the rest of the story: I filled the tank yesterday before I drove 70+/- miles to a town for a funeral. When the funeral and burial were over, I started the engine, and the fuel gauge was working again! It was showing 3/4 of a tank of gas which is correct based on the mileage to the funeral.

I will check the items you said above, but, hopefully, all is now well! Thanks, again!

Dudley 'Gunner' Garidel
Baton Rouge, LA
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Sunday, February 6th, 2022 AT 8:22 AM
Tiny
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Well thank you for the compliment, I appreciate it. But keep an eye on that fuel gauge, let's see if the problem shows itself again when the fuel level gets down to where it was when it failed previously. Maybe the sensor is shorting out at that level. And since it's a data signal that's read instead of just a voltage signal, it's possible a module doesn't know what to do with a skewed signal and the gauge flops upside down. Or it could be a hot or cold related issue, but for now we'll just see how it goes. It is possible it's a cluster failure too, but we won't know until it happens again or fails altogether. If you need any other wiring diagrams or information just let us know. Sorry to hear about the funeral, hope your family is doing okay.

One other thing, certain devices that you can plug into a power port on the truck can cause interference with certain systems, just something to keep in mind. Or any aftermarket devices plugged into the Data Link Connector under the dash where a scan tool would be plugged into. Those can cause a lot of problems.
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Sunday, February 6th, 2022 AT 9:00 AM
Tiny
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Al!

Thanks so much! Couldn't ask for better advice!

Dudley 'Gunner' Garidel
Baton Rouge, LA
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Sunday, February 6th, 2022 AT 5:37 PM

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