Injector leak off test results

Tiny
KING HADI SOUMARE
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Greetings, I've done an injector leak off test. This is what I've found, but don't quite understand the results. Number 1 and number 2 injector had about 25 ml gasoil which seems normal. The number 3 injector has no gasoil returning at all, not even a drop. The number 4 injector has almost half a bottle, maybe 60ml. I can unplug injector number 4 and car starts with starting fluid and runs normal. If I start the car with injector number 4 plugged in I get a lot of smoke and smell. So I now I know there is a problem with injector number 4 but number 3 injector with no return. I don't understand.
Sunday, February 28th, 2021 AT 9:16 AM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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The description sounds like injector three is plugged or the coil is shorted so it isn't moving the pintle off the seat. Injector 4 on the other hand is flowing in excess. If you have a volt/ohm meter you can use it to test the coil in the number three injector. Set it to ohms and test it, then compare that number to the other three injectors. Say you test number 1 and find 2 ohms resistance, then number 2 shows 2.1 ohms but when you test number three it reads infinity (open circuit) you know the injector is open circuit. Now say you test number 4 and find it reads .75 ohm. That would be an internally shorted coil. The control system is designed around somewhat fixed numbers. They determine the flow rate by pulsing the current to the injectors on/off. If the resistance in a coil is different than what the system expects you get the wrong flow rate.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

Overall I would say a set of replacement injectors would be a good idea, that way they are matched for flow rate and you don't have many cylinder to cylinder power variations.
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Sunday, February 28th, 2021 AT 10:57 AM
Tiny
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Okay, thanks. That was helpful, I'll check the resistance tomorrow and get back to you.
Thanks again,
Hadi
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Sunday, February 28th, 2021 AT 12:30 PM
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Hi KING HADI SOUMARE,

In your post you do not specify any codes or check engine light on. Also is it 1.5l diesel or 1.6l gasoline? I would second the injector having a issue.

Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.

Cheers, Nick
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Sunday, February 28th, 2021 AT 8:26 PM
Tiny
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Yes, it's a 1.5dci diesel k9k engine 724 I'm testing on 30 ohms, I get 00.9 on all 4 injectors. Sometimes moving to 10 or 8 but sitting on 00.9.
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 7:24 AM
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Okay, when you do a flow return test in each injector look to see how much is it dripping or is there more of a flow if there is a more of a drip the injector is leaking. Also did you have black smoke when you raise idle at the exhaust?
Also drain your fuel filter in a clear clean container to see if there is metal shavings.
This sounds like you have.9 to 1.0 injectors are dripping more than they should. Look to see if there is black smoke at the exhaust, if there is smoke find the injector that drips' more and replace it. And re do test flow return, if you metal shaving. There is failure at the injection pump.
Cheers, Nick
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 8:46 AM
Tiny
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Greetings, I made a mistake on the resistance my ohm meter had problems. So listen, inj. #1 and #2 have 1.5 ohms. #3 has 1.1 -1.2 ohms, inj. #4 has 1.2 ohms. Will that keep car from starting? If I disconnect injector 4 car will start with starting fluid and run normal, if I reconnect injector $4 it runs but with lot of smoke.
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 9:20 AM
Tiny
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With inj.4 connected I get black and white smoke. There were no metal in the leak off test. Injector 1 and 2 were normal about 20 ml diesel. Injector #3 has no gasoil return, inj.#4 has almost a full bottle, not normal.
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 9:28 AM
Tiny
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You have to drain your fuel filter at the pump to see if meatal shavings.
as for #4 has to much return, this one should be replaced, what you need from the returns is minimum fuel, black smoke is rich fuel in getting in to the combustion, possible dripping injector. you have to make a decision on replacing one at a time or replace all injectors,
Remember to wright down the number of the injector for each cyl and wright down the new part number you might have to program (https://youtu.be/s1bL2McGa0Q)
Cheers, Nick
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 10:06 AM
Tiny
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Okay, Nick thanks. One more question. Inj.3 has no fuel return when I did the leak off test. What does that mean? Also 1.5 ohms on 2 injectors and 1.2ohms on another does that make a difference?
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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Not even a drip? If no drip at all it could be clogged.
On ohms testing I can remember the specification, take a reading on all and if your average is about 1.2 to 1.5 you should be okay. You also have to replace one you can take a reading of the new or refurbished one.
Cheers, Nick
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 10:33 AM
Tiny
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Okay, thanks.
Have a blessed day.
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 11:51 AM

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