Fuel trim numbers-both long term/and short term

Tiny
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I am in the process of diagnosing a PO300/PO302-I can't find the ideal fuel trim #'s. Could you please give me the ideal range for both fuel trims for a warmed-up vehicle?

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Wednesday, April 1st, 2015 AT 6:13 PM

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Tiny
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There is no exact number, but there is an expected range for short term (ST) and long term (LT) trims. Generally, fuel trim will fluctuate between negative and positive single digit numbers. Usually they'll stay around positive or negative 5%. But can go as high as 8 or 9% based on the condition of the engine. A normal LT fuel trim reading will appear to stay steady. Under normal conditions, it should be close to 0, positive or negative single digits, too.

Keep in mind, the trims are really the result of what the O2 sensor is telling the computer. If you have a vacuum leak, fuel pressure issues. The computer will try to compensate; thus, it will try adding or removing fuel to the engine. That will change the trims.
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Wednesday, April 1st, 2015 AT 10:04 PM
Tiny
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Thanks-you answered this completely and next look will be O2 sensors, I thought possibly this in the first place but I was lazy and convinced myself they were fine so I didn't have to replace them- strange how the mind works
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2015 AT 2:28 PM
Tiny
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Glad to help. Using the scanner, watch how the O2 sensors are reacting.
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2015 AT 7:13 PM

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