Front end knock

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RICHARDKNOWLES
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  • 1997 DODGE RAM
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  • 109,000 MILES
Knocking coming from front end over most any bumps. Replaced worn sway bar bushings, end links and shocks absorbers. Truck steers and handles perfectly. Ball joints are tight. Thought I had it figured with the semi worn sway bar bushings but still have that type of major bad sway bar bushing clunking. Over every bump. Hard steering right or left makes little difference. Tires are wearing good. If A frame bushings were bad, wouldn't I have steering or handling issues and how would I tell? Help
Monday, December 20th, 2021 AT 3:31 PM

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STEVE W.
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Bad A Arm bushings wouldn't cause steering issues, but they could cause noise, usually not knocks though. Does speed change the sound at all, how about if you brake as you hit a bump? You already changed the most common reason for that noise with the end links and bar bushings plus the shocks. Can you tell if it's more from one side or the other? A way to check that would be to record the sound under the hood first on one side then the other. When you hear it, does it repeat? IE; you hit the bump and clunk or is it multiple clunk sounds. Like spring was bouncing. I would probably start by looking at the ends of the control arms, you are looking for any shiny areas where they are contacting something nearby, also look at the areas near the bump stops for the same reason. A worn bushing could have let one of the A-Arms move enough it is hitting. Do you know about when it started? Was there anything unusual like hitting a large pothole or curb? Is it running stock tires and rims or at least stock sizes? Can you feel the knock in the floor or steering wheel?
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Monday, December 20th, 2021 AT 4:46 PM
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Stock tires and rims and haven't had this truck very long and thought the problem was so obvious that it wouldn't be that difficult to find.
Opps, I forgot to mention the bump stops are missing and will take care of that tomorrow am. Perhaps that is my issue. Thanks, I'll get back
asap with the results.
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Monday, December 20th, 2021 AT 6:30 PM
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STEVE W.
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No rush, missing them could be but it would take some very weak springs or a large bump to cause it to be a constant thing if it's the stops. Do you have a reliable bump nearby that you can use for testing? Take it and try driving so only one side hits it and see if it's more pronounced on either side. Then try it with your foot just barely touching the brakes. A loose caliper or mount can cause a ruckus at times. If those change nothing you could try stuffing a bit of padding on each side of the hood and see it that changes things.
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Monday, December 20th, 2021 AT 10:28 PM
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Tried all of the above today with 0 results and also did find hood hinges had a similar rattle but not with the hood closed and am still sure it is below in the suspension. Jacked up both sides with the suspension free, pried around on the A arms looking for movement. Bushings look old there but didn't see what I was looking for. Going to try for an audio video with a neighbor's help. This truck runs so nicely otherwise. Stay tuned. Thanks
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Tuesday, December 21st, 2021 AT 9:26 PM
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STEVE W.
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If you can hunt up someone with a chassis ear it would help, that is basically a series of piezo microphones that attach to whatever you like and then you listen with headphones as you select the different ones and use them to track down the source. The poor man's way is to use one of the cheap digital sound recorders and clamp/tape it in place and keep moving it until you find the loudest spot of noise.
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Wednesday, December 22nd, 2021 AT 1:10 AM
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Okay, I'll put that on the agenda but before that I must mention that the lower portion of each shock can be twisted back and forth, and that action makes THE noise. I hope to make a video of what I have just mentioned. Seem to me there shouldn't be any slop or noise. This is with the wheels on the ground. Got some chores but be back after that. Thanks
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Wednesday, December 22nd, 2021 AT 8:43 AM
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Steve,

It seems like the lower anchor 0f the shocks should not be allowed to have the slight movement they now have. The bolt size is 9/16" and appears to fit the shock bushing sleeve but that little extra space between the bolt thread and the sleeve inside that rubber bushing is allowing the lower end to be free to cause my rattle. I'm thinking of removing the shocks and giving that a try. There is no rubber to dampen that plays between the bolt and the shock bushing sleeve. Thanks.
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Wednesday, December 22nd, 2021 AT 3:08 PM
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No there shouldn't be play in the shock bushings, also when they are properly torqued down the inner sleeve should be tightly squeezed in the mount. I have added fender washers on some when the sleeve was a loose fit in the mount.
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Thursday, December 23rd, 2021 AT 2:49 AM
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Okay Steve, you are right I did have a hood rattle but most of my noise was coming from the lower shock bushings not being torqued enough. I'm 84 years old working alone but still pretty basic and embarrassing so Thanks for your time and expertise. Happy Holidays, Rich
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Thursday, December 23rd, 2021 AT 2:01 PM
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STEVE W.
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Don't be embarrassed, it happens to all of us now and then. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as well.
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Thursday, December 23rd, 2021 AT 10:38 PM

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