Complete loss of electrical power

Tiny
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  • 1998 FORD RANGER
  • 3.0L
  • 6 CYL
  • 4WD
  • MANUAL
  • 139,000 MILES
Truck listed above XL model without anti-theft system. Was running fine, no indication of not starting, no check engine or warning lights. Drove it, went to start it up again 30 minutes later, dashboard lights came on briefly when key was initially turned to on position, then nothing. No dashboard lights, no clicking, no attempting to start. Replaced battery, nothing. Fuses appear to be fine. No apparent loose wires or connections. Replaced ignition switch, got dashboard lights back but nothing when attempting to start. Replaced starter and starter relay switch (fuse) – nothing when attempting to start. After trying to start a few more times, one click, lost dashboard lights, appear to be back to where I started from.
Sunday, May 9th, 2021 AT 3:14 PM

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Tiny
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Follow the smaller battery positive wire to the under-hood fuse box. Be sure that connection is clean and tight.
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Sunday, May 9th, 2021 AT 7:47 PM
Tiny
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Could it be the Power Control Module?
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 3:15 PM
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No. The Powertrain Control Module controls the engine, none of the interior functions or systems. The bad connection I described is by far the most common cause of everything going dead on every brand of vehicle starting in the mid '90s. 99 out of 100 problems are solved by tightening that nut.

This can also be caused by a loose or corroded battery cable clamp, but most of the time the symptoms are a little different. If tightening nut doesn't solve this, we'll need to do some testing with an inexpensive digital voltmeter. If necessary, I can help you with that.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 3:24 PM
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Okay. Thank you. I won't be able to try it for a few days as the vehicle is in a remote location about an hour and a half from home. I have a voltmeter. If that connection is not the problem, are you available by email to walk me through some of that testing? Would I still have headlights if that connection was loose or corroded? I do (or at least did) still have headlights.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 5:45 AM
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Normally everything is dead or goes dead the instant you try to crank the engine.

I can walk you through the steps right here. Assuming everything is dead, to get you started, first turn on the head lights, even though they don't work, so current is trying to flow. That's what makes these tests valid. Place one voltmeter probe on each battery post, not on the cable clamps attached to them. You'll find 12.6 volts if the battery is good and fully-charged. Now move one probe from the negative post to a paint and rust-free point on the body. If you no longer have 12.6 volts, the bad connection is between the two points you had the probe on. Assuming you still have 12.6 volts, move the other probe from the positive post to the cable clamp, (1/4" away). Should still have 12.6 volts. Now move it to the next place along the smaller wire. That should be the connection on the fuse box.

Here's where it gets hard to describe but it's real easy to do. Place the probe on the terminal that's crimped onto the end of that wire: 12.6 volts. Now move it to that stud or the nut on it. If you find low or 0 volts there, that is the point of the bad connection. That is a real common source of trouble on all models.

If multiple circuits are working, figure out which systems are dead, then we may need to just pick one of the easiest ones to diagnose, and when we solve that, the rest of the systems should also work. I can put some diagrams together and post them to help.

I'm only here a few hours each day, so if you have to make a long trip to the truck, I'll try to cover as many steps as possible in each reply.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 6:16 PM
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Thank you very much. That is useful information. I will not be able to try it out until Friday or Saturday.
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Wednesday, May 12th, 2021 AT 7:20 AM
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I'm here about this time every day. We'll figure out where to go next once you post some test results.
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Wednesday, May 12th, 2021 AT 4:52 PM

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