2002 Dodge Caravan 2002 Grand Caravan won't start after ACC

Tiny
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I hit a deer and my van instantly shut off. I tried to restart but it won't turn over in either Park or Neutral. I have looked for info on the web trying to find a fuel shutoff and can't find any. All I keep finding is info for an Auto Shutoff. I called a junk yard and was told the Auto Shutoff would not keep the van from starting. I tried starting again last night and could hear a very faint hum/click coming from under the hood on the driver's side. Everything else in the van works, headlights, keyless entry, dashboard lights, etc. I would greatly appreciate any info on where this ASD is and how to tell if it is bad. Do I need to replace it with another one or is there a way to reset it? Can I unhook the battery to reset everything? If it isn't the ASD keeping the van from starting, what other things could be causing the van not to start? Thanks in advance!
Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 10:21 AM

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Tiny
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Hello MsTrkDrvr

The ASD relay and fuel pump relay are located in the Power Distribution Center (PDC) near the Air Cleaner. The inside top of the PDC cover has a label showing relay and fuse location.
Replace it with a good one.
it is most likely the problem


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/46384_0996b43f802023ae_1.jpg



Check fuse 16, it is a 25 A that power the relay.
(see diagram)


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/46384_0996b43f80237caf2_1.jpg



(check your email for this diagram)
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 10:56 AM
Tiny
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Hello and thanks for the quick response. I replaced the ASD and fuse but my van won't start. I sent an email back to Mathias with more detailed info. Could he please answer back? Thanks again!
MsTrkDrvr
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 4:16 PM
Tiny
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Hello MsTrkDrvr

To verify where the faint hum/click coming from, open the fuel filler neck, have an helper listen to the fuel pump while you start the car.
If you do not hear anything, power and ground to the pump must be checked before we condemn the pump.
Next, if you hear humming noise while cranking, hold the gas pedal down, crank it 3 to 4 times, the engine may be flooded.(Hold the gas pedal down while cranking until the engine start, do not pump the pedal)
(I'm using my email only to send diagrams, sorry I could not see your reply there)

Get back to me.
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 5:05 PM
Tiny
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The fuel pump is working. The hum/click is most definitely coming from around the control panel box under the hood. I had my daughter try turning the key while I listened and wiggled wires to see if I broke anything. There is a square box, roughly 3" X 3", attached to the front bumper with one bolt, that is four prong. 2 prongs are twisted so I can't plug it back in. What is that piece called and could it be causing the van to not start? There is also a large, aluminum, computer looking box in front of the control panel box. It has 2 sets of wire clusters plugged into it. I can't get the one set of wires plugged back in all the way but was told this is for the anti lock brakes. Give me an old car to fix any day. These new ones are aweful!
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 5:27 PM
Tiny
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And by the way, the van does not roll over or crank. It's almost like trying to start a car with a dead battery, but there is that hum / click and then nothing. The battery is good.
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 5:29 PM
Tiny
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Hello MsTrkDrvr

The starter may be disconnected.
It might be the starter harness connectors.
Check the connections at the starter to make sure everything is in place.
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 6:03 PM
Tiny
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Hello again. NVM - The so called anti lock brake box is the computer. I think this would make it not run! LOL
Thanks again for all your help.
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 8:18 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for your donation and for visiting 2CarPros. Com we hope to help you again the next time you need us.
Get back to me if your vehicle still does not start after you have fixed the anti lock brake controller.
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Sunday, January 31st, 2010 AT 8:54 PM
Tiny
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Hello again Mathias, I replaced the ECM on the van today and the ASD relay is still clicking when I try to start the van. I have switched the horn relay with the ASD relay and the horn works so I don't believe the ASD relay is faulty. Do you have any other suggestions as to what might be causing the van not to start. I still can't believe hitting a deer will make a van not restart!
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Friday, February 12th, 2010 AT 4:57 PM
Tiny
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Hello MsTrkDrvr

Welcome back to 2carpros.

My last post to you was to check the starter.
When you hit the deer something might be disconnected from the solenoid to the starter.

The next check would be the starter motor itself. Using a jumper to bypass the solenoid is a trick that will show if the starter motor spins or not.
(jumper cable from the battery positive to the starter)
If the starter works when bypassing the solenoid, the problem is in the solenoid or ignition circuit.
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Friday, February 12th, 2010 AT 11:02 PM
Tiny
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Did you check the starter like the other person suggested. I would start by checking to make sure all the wires are connected. If so sometimes tapping the starter with a wrench or hammer will free the starter if its stuck. You don't have to hit it hard, just enough to jar it a bit, if this does allow the van to start you most likely will need a new starter or rebuild that one.
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Sunday, February 14th, 2010 AT 2:27 AM

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