Codes P0430 and P0420

Tiny
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I know I am asking lots of questions but I'm trying to pass New Jersey inspection without failing.
So my question is, what do I need to have on the screen of my diagnostic tool to pass inspection? Can I pass inspection with any of dtc or pddtc codes? Also can I pass inspection with showing any of monitors just like shown on the images?
I'm attaching 2 pics. Thank you, ev
Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 11:45 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Looking at the second picture, it indicates there is one monitor that is incomplete. That needs to be indicating, "ok".

The incomplete monitor should reset via driving the vehicle. If you had the battery disconnected or the codes cleared, the system has to complete a drive cycle to show complete on all monitors.

I hope this helps.

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Friday, May 7th, 2021 AT 8:13 PM
Tiny
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What about the X next to the cat on the first pic? Is that the one is incomplete? And can you tell me what means when I have numbers next to pddtc and dtc? Can I pass inspection with those showing any numbers? Thank you, ev
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Friday, May 7th, 2021 AT 11:51 PM
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Hi,

Yes, that is the one. Usually, that is the last one to reset.

Let me know if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe
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Saturday, May 8th, 2021 AT 7:17 PM
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Okay, so am I going to pass the whole inspection like that or not? I getting really nervous. Thank you, ev
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Saturday, May 8th, 2021 AT 7:39 PM
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Hi,

I live in PA. We are allowed to have one monitor not complete and still pass the test. Ask your tech to see if that is the case in NJ. Explain that you have one incomplete monitor which hasn't reset. Ask if it still will pass or if they all need to be complete.

If they all need complete, it is just a matter of you continuing to drive the vehicle and checking it to see when it's done. I have actually had to drive vehicles a total of 200 miles for that monitor. They can be stubborn.

Take a look at what I just found:

A vehicle of model year 1996-2000 is permitted to have two non-continuous monitors not ready and still pass the readiness portion of the OBD test. A vehicle of model year 2001 or newer is only permitted to have one non- continuous monitor not ready. Jan 29, 2020

NJ-CERT Module 5: - NJDEP - StopTheSoot. Org

Based on that, you should be okay.

Let me know.

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Saturday, May 8th, 2021 AT 7:56 PM
Tiny
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Sounds good. Thank you, ev
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Saturday, May 8th, 2021 AT 10:27 PM
Tiny
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Oh, okay. One more question based on the images I sent. Can I pass inspection with 2 pddpc codes?
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Saturday, May 8th, 2021 AT 10:31 PM
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Hi,

The PD DTC indicates permanent codes. They can't be removed by clearing them with a scanner or disconnecting the battery.

With that being said, are there any diagnostic trouble codes indicated on the scan tool? They could be old codes that aren't relevant or still could be. I'm not sure if you checked for codes in general or if you just went to the IM readiness on the scan tool. When looking at the pics you attached, it appears the MIL (check engine light) is not on and there are 0 codes. Under those conditions, it should pass.

As far as monitors, you can pass with one still incomplete. Let me know if there are other codes that you know of.

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Sunday, May 9th, 2021 AT 7:48 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Before I had p0430 and p0420. I was adding cataclean for few months and I getting different readings every time I scan it. It's getting better readings though. I had also oil leak kn one of my o2 sensors that I have to replace I just replaced engine oil pan but the guy I went to didn't replaced the 02 sensor at the same time long story. Thank you, ev
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Sunday, May 9th, 2021 AT 11:55 PM
Tiny
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What about the X next to the cat on the first pic? Is that the one is incomplete? And can you tell me what means when I have numbers next to pddtc and dtc? Can I pass inspection with those showing any numbers? What means monitors okay and monitors n/a. I'm trying to pass NJ inspection and I have codes p0430 and 420 coming up.
Thank you, Ev
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
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Good morning,

With 2 active codes, it will not pass emission.

Code 420 and 430 are for catalytic converter failure. In most cases, it needs to be replaced, the codes cleared and a drive cycle to set the monitors again.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/catalytic-converter-replacement

I attached the location and the procedure for replacing the cats. Once it is done and the codes cleared, the drive cycle must be performed and all monitors set.

Roy
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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But my engine light is not on though? I know I pass inspection with 2 codes in NJ before it was years ago. I don't remember the codes though. My other question is, it says that the car is ready for emission based on green light o nthe images or not? Thank you
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
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The monitors are set, yes. You have one not set. The light is not on so when they do the plug and play, it will only show the 1 monitor not set. That is allowed by New Jersey.

I would take it to a testing station for your test. You should be good.

Roy
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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But you mention before that with 2 active codes I wont pass emission so with everything that you see on the images. Am I okay or not for inspection? So sorry to bother you but i'm trying to figure out what is the best option for me to do with my car thank you, Ev
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
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You only have one monitor not set. That Is okay.

There are no active DTC as it says to the reader.

That means you are good to go for the inspection.

Roy
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Oh, okay. So that means that with cat showing not ready i'm ready. But can you tell me what really mean pddtc and dtc means? Thank you
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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PPdc is pending codes and DTC is current or active codes.

Roy
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, so having which im not going pass inspection? Thank you, ev
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
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You are going to pass emissions based on those readings.

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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 4:31 PM (Merged)
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Thank you and wish me luck.
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