Codes P0300 and P0128, random misfire?

Tiny
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I've been trying to find the source of this random misfire for a couple weeks now. Replaced the plugs, inspected for vacuum leaks, tested the coil pack and ignition control module and MAF sensor with a multimeter meter and although I'm not super experienced with using one I believe everything was fine. When all this first occurred, I had 2 codes: p0171 and p0300. After replacing the upstream o2 sensor near the manifold I noticed that the accordion style flex pipe looking piece connecting the exhaust to the manifold had a huge hole in it. Like it was about to fall off. So, I got that all fixed and the p0171 code went away but still the p0300 random misfire remains and now a new code along with it (p0128). From what I can gather this is a bad thermostat. I'm trying to be thorough and not forget anything, so I want to add that I also checked the fuel filter. It was a little dirty but not clogged. Unfortunately, I was not able to change it because of financial reasons or I would have just because it looks pretty old. Took the fuel injectors out and cleaned and tested them and they were fine. I got a digital pressure gauge from work and tested the fuel pressure and finally got what I believe is a small clue. Pressure drops when RPMs are increased and when I turn the vehicle off it also drops extremely low. So, the question is, where to go from here because I'm not exactly sure what to do next. Fuel pump? Fuel pressure sensor/regulator? Or am I off base altogether? Any help would be extremely appreciated as this is our only vehicle right now. I hope I didn't forget any useful info.
Thursday, September 8th, 2022 AT 7:23 PM

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Tiny
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So, the p0128 code is the clue, the engine is not getting up to temperature so the computer does not know what to do, this is the first thing I would fix. Next, I would replace the MAF sensor because cleaning them doesn't work most of the time. Does the engine seem to have good power? Then I would not worry about the fuel pressure. Here is how you can change the thermostat out and the MAF sensor in the images below so you can fix the problem. Check out the images (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.
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Friday, September 9th, 2022 AT 12:47 PM
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Okay, thanks for that. It is strange the p0128 comes and goes but obviously p0300 is constant. I also got to thinking. I have never had to put coolant in the reservoir since I been driving if. It is my girlfriend's vehicle, so I asked her if she or maybe her father had ever put any in and no, not a drop. So, I took the reservoir out and cleaned it. It was disgusting. Like the same nasty antifreeze has been sitting in there for God knows how lone. I made sure none of the lines were clogged or anything like that so yea, definitely must be that the thermostat is stuck closed I'm guessing. I've changed a MAF sensor and thermostat before on different vehicles so that shouldn't be a problem. Does the engine have good power? Well, yes and no. The thing is this misfire comes and goes. I can tell just by the way the engine sounds and obviously performance gets extremely better for a while. Usually in the morning. I drive it to work which is only 5 minutes away from my home and sometimes it will just run perfectly. Check engine goes away. Great power. Everything is fine. Then suddenly you can hear and feel it bog down. Lose power. Takes longer to shift. Even the gas pedal feels different whenever it does this. Sometimes it'll go back and forth like it's trying but something is holding it back is the best way I can describe it. But more often than not especially lately the check engine light stays lit and like I said it's like it's being held back. Like it's only running on 2 cylinders or something. Also it is using twice as much gas than it should be. I know it's probably not the best idea to be driving it and we do try to limit it but it is our only vehicle currently. Anyhow thank you for the feedback and as soon as I can afford it I'm going to get that new tstat and take your advice and get a new MAF sensor. I have an older model f150 and it is notorious for the maf to go out. And I guess the symptoms I had with that are pretty similar to what I'm dealing with now. I just didn't want to guess and throw money at it and be wrong so I thought I'd clean it and even tried testing it with a multimeter. Plus different opinions have me wondering which way to go so thanks again I will report back with progress.
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Friday, September 9th, 2022 AT 2:11 PM
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Also, someone told me that my problem could be that I didn't get GM spark plugs. I bought AC Delco instead. Do you think that would really be the reason for my problems? I find it hard to believe but I guess some ignition systems are picky.
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Friday, September 9th, 2022 AT 2:17 PM
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AC delco spark plugs are good.

A/C/ DELCO. 41-981

These are the ones you installed correct?
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Saturday, September 10th, 2022 AT 2:27 PM
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My mistake. I was thinking of the old ones I took out. I bought the cheaper ones trying to save a buck. Sorry about the mix-up.

Auto lite APP 5263 are the new ones I installed.
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Saturday, September 10th, 2022 AT 5:26 PM
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I am not sure those plugs are correct, they will need to be cross referenced, did you ever get the MAF sensor?
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Monday, September 12th, 2022 AT 2:42 PM
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Well, the guy at advance auto showed me list of compatible spark plugs from most expensive to least and I got kind of middle of the road but according to their computers at the store they are correct just a cheaper version. I'm waiting for payday this week. Should have the thermostat and the MAF sensor installed by Friday or Saturday. So, I've looked on the internet a bit and everything, but I mean. Is there a way to test the old MAF sensor to see if it's bad? I found a how to do it online and it involves back probing the wires and using a multimeter. Is that going to be accurate, or I guess what I'm trying to say is would I be able to know for sure if it in fact is bad before I buy I a new one?
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Monday, September 12th, 2022 AT 7:41 PM
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The only way to tell for sure is to have a scan tool which can read the air flow in grams and then compare it to the new sensor, the reading can be off just a little and it affects the engine.
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Tuesday, September 13th, 2022 AT 9:20 AM
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All right I guess I will just go with the educated guess and get one. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. I'll report back probably on Friday and let you know how it goes.
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Tuesday, September 13th, 2022 AT 10:21 AM
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I forgot to mention another major symptom thy I've been having is the car uses twice as much gas as it normally would. Again, I understand it's not the best idea to be driving it, but we've just been going short distances and only when we have to. But I suppose the bad fuel mileage would be because of the misfire? I just thought I'd mention it in case it could be a clue as to the source of the problem.
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Tuesday, September 13th, 2022 AT 8:54 PM
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Both the poor milage and engine misfire can be caused by the MAF sensor.
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Wednesday, September 14th, 2022 AT 11:47 AM
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That's what I figured. Alright I will let you know how it goes. It would be great if that's all it is along with the thermostat obviously. I'm going to try to get it done ASAP, but I've had another run of bad luck. There was a payroll error at work, and I was shorted about $400.00 on my check so I got to wait for that to get fixed before I can afford anything. It's always something may. No luck at all lately. Thanks again for the advice!
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Thursday, September 15th, 2022 AT 8:02 PM
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It happens, hang in there and let me know when you get the sensor.
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Friday, September 16th, 2022 AT 10:33 AM
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Finally, was able to get a thermostat and MAF sensor. I checked my old thermostat by putting it in boiling water. It is working just fine. So, I put it back on. Put the new MAF sensor on and no change. I even made sure to clear the codes before I put it in. I'm still getting the same bad performance. Same code (p0300 is the code that is constant every time I run the diagnostic. Sometimes when I do it, I will get the p0128 and a couple of others. But like right now for instance it's only showing the random misfire). So, I don't know man I'm at a loss. I'm hoping I'm just missing something simple. Any ideas?
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Thursday, September 22nd, 2022 AT 2:25 PM
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So luckily, I was able to get my money back for the thermostat and the MAF sensor p0128 came back. What about the Engine coolant temperature sensor?
Or Intake air temperature sensor?
Either of those a possibility. I still need to do a compression reading by the war. Could it be something as simple as the fuel or air filter? Both are obviously a little dirty, but I mean. The fuel filter wasn't clogged although it is a little dirty from what I could see. And the air filter is a little dirty but not horrible.
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Thursday, September 22nd, 2022 AT 2:53 PM
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Got a buddy who keeps telling me it's the coil pack. And I have read that they are known to be problematic in this engine. I'm all over the place I know. Lol. I got a new fuel filter just because it was cheap so worth a try, I guess.
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Thursday, September 22nd, 2022 AT 3:13 PM
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Yep, it could be the coils if they are arcing to one another or internally. Here is how to replace the coils. Check out the images (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.
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Friday, September 23rd, 2022 AT 12:29 PM
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I've been reading up on how to read and interpret freeze frame data on my OBD2 diagnostic tool and I came across the topic of short- and long-term fuel trim values. This is freeze frame data specifically for the p0300 code. Both short- and long-term fuel trim values are at zero percent. From what I can gather online this means an O2 sensor isn't working. I've already changed the upstream one (the one close to the manifold) although I spliced the new one into my existing plug. (Sent picture to explain) I'm positive I wired it right, but this has got me second guessing myself. I guess it could possibly be one of the other ones but how to tell which one I do not know. Any thoughts on this fuel trim situation? Am I on the right track or not?
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Friday, September 23rd, 2022 AT 4:36 PM
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Also, I wanted to add that my existing thermostat was working fine, so I didn't change it. Now that code (p0128) has gone away and a new one came up, P0452.
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Friday, September 23rd, 2022 AT 5:18 PM
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Already told you about the thermostat, I'm sorry.
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Friday, September 23rd, 2022 AT 5:19 PM

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