Diagnois codes manually

Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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  • 1995 BUICK CENTURY
  • 3.1L
  • V6
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 90,000 MILES
Can't read codes through aldl connector has no pin in B only pin a/m/k? Not able to jumper a to b.
Wednesday, August 26th, 2020 AT 4:37 PM

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Tiny
KASEKENNY
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Here is a guide that will help with this. Clearly it is telling you to jump A to B but if you have no terminal in B the I believe B is the ground. Try jumping A to a known good ground.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/buick-cadillac-chevy-gmc-oldsmobile-pontiac-gm-1983-1995-obd1-code-definitions-and-retrieval-method

Then turn the key on and see if the light flashes. If this doesn't work then we can figure something else out. Thanks
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Wednesday, August 26th, 2020 AT 5:26 PM
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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  • 1995 BUICK CENTURY
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  • V6
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Not able to put in diagnosis mode.
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Thursday, August 27th, 2020 AT 4:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
HARRY P
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Are we sure this is an OBD1 car? GM made a nice little thing in 1995 commonly referred to as OBD1.5. It has the same connector as OBD2, but won't respond to an OBD2 scanner, and the jumper wire trick that worked on OBD1 models doesn't work either. You have to find a mechanic with a scanner for OBD1 and OBD2 cars as they will communicate with it.

Hope that makes sense for you.
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Thursday, August 27th, 2020 AT 4:34 PM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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If I recall correctly those are equipped with the oddball OBD 1.5 for that year with the 3.1. For it you need a scan tool that can handle both the OBD I side as well as the limited OBD II coding as it will give 4 digit power-train codes. Some of the modern scan tools can read it with an adapter but it's better to find an older unit that was actually around at the time as many of them claim to read OBDI but actually don't. The Snap-On MT2500 (the brick) the OTC Genisys, the Tech 2 are three that I've used that can work on that car. Most are very reasonable on the used market just be sure in the case of the brick that you get the correct GM cartridge to cover from about 1992 thru 1998 or so.
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Thursday, August 27th, 2020 AT 4:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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Replaced head gasket now will check in later same vehicle thanks.
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Thursday, August 27th, 2020 AT 4:34 PM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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Of the tools I mentioned the OTC and Tech 2 have the software in them and don't require a cartridge to work. Just the correct adapter. However they are usually much more money even used.
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Thursday, August 27th, 2020 AT 8:05 PM
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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Here is pin id:
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Friday, August 28th, 2020 AT 8:50 AM
Tiny
KASEKENNY
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Let us know if you need more assistance but unless I am not understanding your response properly, we may not be on the same page. Steve is saying that you need a specific scan tool to pull codes on this vehicle due to it having a "combination" of OBD I and II so a scan tool is needed.

I was not aware of this either so Steve taught me something on these ones but it appears you will not be able to pull the codes manually on this one. Thanks
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Saturday, August 29th, 2020 AT 3:58 PM
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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Thanks for info have a friend with a Snap-On scanner.
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Saturday, August 29th, 2020 AT 5:33 PM
Tiny
KASEKENNY
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Okay, great. Let us know how you make out. Thanks
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Saturday, August 29th, 2020 AT 5:39 PM
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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Friend had 0bd 1 fixt problem. Thanks
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Sunday, October 11th, 2020 AT 8:00 AM
Tiny
STEVE W.
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Good to hear, what did it turn out to be?
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Sunday, October 11th, 2020 AT 10:48 AM
Tiny
WAYNE KOONTZ
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Lazy 02 sensor not staying in close loop. Thanks
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Sunday, October 11th, 2020 AT 12:15 PM
Tiny
STEVE W.
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You're welcome. Thank you for using 2CarPros.
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Sunday, October 11th, 2020 AT 3:18 PM

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