Crankshaft position sensor reprogram

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COREY H JENKINS
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  • 1996 CHEVROLET TAHOE
  • 5.7L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 253,000 MILES
Someone told me that when you change out your crankshaft position sensor, you have to relearn the car's brain. And that you have to go to dealership for that.
Is this true?
Friday, August 11th, 2017 AT 3:50 AM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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The short answer is, yes and no.

The long answer is that the ECM uses the crankshaft signal, along with cam position sensor in order to determine firing of the injection and ignition.

It also uses it to determine if the engine is misfiring by reading the amount of time between the signal pulses and comparing that to the data table it has been programmed with on how long those pulse separations should be.
Because of manufacturing changes and differences each sensor is slightly different in signal output and even in where it reads the signal depending on the position of the sensing part inside the actual head of the sensor.
The relearn procedure "resets" the sensor information so the ECM can learn the new sensors signal. If it is not done you can get mis-fire codes and poor engine performance or in newer engine a reduced power condition.

A dealer is not the only place that can do a re-learn, pretty much any good shop with a bi-directional scan tool can handle it as it is a very common item to be done, even for some diagnostic work.
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Friday, August 11th, 2017 AT 6:56 AM
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COREY H JENKINS
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Is it the same with the cam position sensor also?
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Friday, August 11th, 2017 AT 2:17 PM
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STEVE W.
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On yours there is a thing called crank/cam correlation. Basically the ECM knows that the camshafts turn at half crank speed. It expects the cam sensor to send signal pulses in time with the crankshaft sensor so the proper cylinders get spark and fuel at the correct time. Your cam sensor is in the distributor and changing it does not require a relearn as it is a different style sensor than the crank sensor.

As the timing chain wears and the other valve train parts wear the cam signal can get "out of time" with the crank and you get a P1345 code. But the most common cause for that code on your engine (1996-1998 actually) is a worn distributor drive gear at the base of the distributor.
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Friday, August 11th, 2017 AT 7:35 PM
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I have a 1998 GMC k1500 with this issue bought a new one and it does nothing. Can I take this to AutoZone or hook my girls computer up to it an reset it myself? Which is best?
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Saturday, December 26th, 2020 AT 12:56 AM
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STEVE W.
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AutoZone will only read codes they will not do anything like resetting the calibration of the systems unless it's on a battery install where the new battery has to be initialized into the system.
To do the reset you need a proper scan tool with bi-directional controls so it would depend on what you have access to as to if it will work or not. However what are the actual codes you have in the system?
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Saturday, December 26th, 2020 AT 2:44 AM
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DAVE W 123
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I have a Fiat Punto Grande diesel 1.2. I have changed the camshaft position when the the engine management light came. The car was losing power in first gear and taking time to get over 2,000 revs. Everything was going good for three weeks then the same problem has come back again but this time no warning lights. Any ideas as to what it could be?
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Monday, January 11th, 2021 AT 12:19 PM
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STEVE W.
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On a diesel with no warning lights I would suspect a fuel issue, like a partly clogged filter or a weak pump. Either would restrict fuel flow and give you those symptoms. However that vehicle isn't in out database so I cannot tell you how to test the pressure or the filters location, but it is possibly in the manual.
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Monday, January 11th, 2021 AT 2:06 PM

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