Completely drained new battery

Tiny
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  • 2003 FORD ESCAPE
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  • 170,000 MILES
I had my car parked for a year without the battery installed. I came back to town and bought new battery installed it and car started up no problem. I drove it two or three times very short distance no problem. This morning I went to start and completely drained. I could not use key fob to unlock, I had to unlock manually. I used a multi meter to check battery and got a reading of 1.53. Had a friend come over and attempt to jump battery. Lights and gauges all came on but when trying to start all I got was click click click, more than what I got before. So I let it charge for a about ten minutes. I used the meter to check again now voltage read 11.66.
Still no start only clicking. I then unhooked cables. As soon as I unhooked them I then had to manually lock my doors I was back to no lights no nothing. Not understanding why it would instantly lose power. And why did this happen all the sudden?
Monday, December 11th, 2017 AT 3:25 AM

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Tiny
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I would like to ad that while I was away, my brother removed amp and subs and left wiring installed. I just noticed this and the wire ends were exposed. Is it possible the touch when I was moving stuff around in trunk? I went under the hood and disconnected the big red wire with the fuse, that was connected to positive. I thought if that was the case the fuse would have blown, it was not. So a friend put the battery in my car and still nothing. When they put their battery back it was drained, it was in my car for maybe two minutes but he had first had the positive and negative switched so I was thinking that is what drained his battery. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Monday, December 11th, 2017 AT 7:11 AM
Tiny
CJ MEDEVAC
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I'd start with checking your fuses and fusible links.

This newer computerized stuff just don't like crossed battery cables or crossed jumper cables.

Along with that, have your battery fully tested at a popular auto parts store, a new battery right off of the shelf can be bad! (yes, I took in the donor battery story) We have to insure we weed out any "given" possible problems.

As far as the add on wiring, Can you/ do you want to eliminate it?

Regardless,

After you check the other stuff, Look this over, It came out of "Repair Guides" at the Top Right side of our site pages.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-dead-overnight

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Saturday, December 16th, 2017 AT 6:49 PM
Tiny
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Hi thanks for the reply. So the outcome is after unhooking the stereo wire that had the large fuse between the battery and the firewall. After installing a new battery. It still would not start so I checked the fuse found one was blown. I replaced it and so far it has not given any trouble it starts just fine. Is it possible that haveing the amp wires open at the end in the trunk leading to the battery is what caused fuse to blow? I would think it had to be something to make it blow. Also I would like to know if anyone here can tell me what the reccomended tune up items would be needed after sitting for a year without being driven, I know I need to get a tune up but I do not want to take it to shop and explain it has been sitting a year and them see me as a female that don't know better and tell me I have to have a bunch of extra stuff done. I know key points would be oil and all filters, I had just had spark plugs replaced about 6 months prior to parking it so less than 2 years ago. Should I get new fuel filter? My qoute so far from jiffy was 325.00 for full tune up. That sounds high to me. My truck does have 170,000 miles on it
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Sunday, December 17th, 2017 AT 12:43 AM
Tiny
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If I might add a few comments of value, your car did not drain your friend's battery in two minutes. You'd have serious smoke and melted wires for it to happen that quickly. A good, fully-charged battery can easily run a starter motor sporadically totaling well over two minutes, and they draw around 150 amps. To put that in perspective, a pair of normal head light bulbs draw around ten amps. To kill a good battery in two minutes, it's tongue would be hanging out and sweat would be pouring from it. Something else is going on. A good suspect is the two battery cables. On a lot of Ford products, corrosion occurs on the first inch of either end of either cable, under the insulation where you can't see it. You may wiggle a cable, then everything works, and that makes you think the connections need to be cleaned. Cleaning won't help, but removing them disturbs the corroded wire ends enough that they might work okay for a week or two, making you think that was the solution.

One thing that jumped out was when you said you used the jumper cables to charge your battery for ten minutes. That's not long enough. A good, fully-charged battery will measure 12.6 volts. A totally discharged battery will measure close to 12.2 volts. At that point it's not strong enough to do reasonable work, but it will start to recharge right away. When you have less than ten volts, as you did, it will take a minimum of 15 minutes on a charger or jumper cables for the acid in the battery to become conductive, THEN it will start to charge. If you watch the "Amps" gauge on a portable charger, you'll see it stay on "0", then by 15 - 20 minutes the gauge will go up, indicating current is flowing through the battery to charge it. After about two hours on a slow rate, current will come back down. You can consider the battery fully charged when current drops to five amps.

Reading about reversed battery cables made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Bad cables or a dead battery may have saved you from serious damage. Your car has dozens of computer modules in it, and they will be damaged from reverse polarity. All of them have diodes built in for protection. A diode is a one-way valve for electrical current flow. They are placed backward in the computers between their ground and 12-volt feed terminals. Being backward, they do nothing at all. It's like they aren't even there. When the battery cables are reversed, those diodes become "forward biased", meaning they turn on and act exactly like a piece of wire. That causes very high current to flow which blows the fuses for those circuits, thereby protecting the modules. Most of the time you only need to correct the cables, then replace the blown fuses. If the battery was nice and strong, expect to find a dozen or more blown fuses. There will be, at a minimum, a fuse box under the hood and one inside the car.

The generator also has six diodes for a different purpose, but when the engine is not running, those diodes are all that stands in the way of the battery discharging instantly through the alternator. Years ago there was a special short section of fuse link wire spliced into the generator's output wire to protect for reversed cables, but almost all vehicles now use a very large fuse that's bolted into the under-hood fuse box. On most cars other than GM products, that fuse doesn't feed anything else, so if it's blown, the only symptom is the charging system won't keep the battery charged. At most, with no lights or heater fan turned on, you'll be able to drive no more than an hour before the battery runs dead. You should be able to visually inspect that fuse, but for most models, if it's blown, the engine will still start and run.

Happy Sunday to you CJ, and Merry Christmas!
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Sunday, December 17th, 2017 AT 2:15 AM
Tiny
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Hi thank you for your response. I believe he killed his battery by some other means, However I do believe I found the problem, I had a amp and subs hooked up in the back, While I was deployed my brother took it upon himself to remove the amp and subs, He decided it was quicker to cut the ends of the wire and leave it exposed running along the interior into the engine compartment where there was a large fuse between battery and firewall and the end connected to positive post of battery. My belief is just prior to this trouble I was moving things in the trunk, I believe I somehow smashed those wireds together causing trouble, As I have since unhooked the stereo wire and now have had no problems. Although as you stated I did have to replace one fuse.
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Sunday, December 17th, 2017 AT 9:23 AM
Tiny
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Dandy. Keep us updated if you have more problems.
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Sunday, December 17th, 2017 AT 5:48 PM

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