Temperature gauge stopped working

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With Both Them. At The Same Time Going Out. Could. Be a Bad. Bcm I Would. Have It Scanned For Codes With A Professional Scan. Took. That CAn Read All. The Computers And Codes Not Just The Engine And Transmission Computers. Let Me Know The ExactcCode Numbers Not Code DescripIons.
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Hi,
When I start my malibu and dive it my temperature gauge will go up to 2/3 wich is to hot, after it hits the 2/3 it will go right back down to the normal 1/2 way mark while its going up I have very little to no heat coming out of my fan.
I recently had my thermostat changed because of simmilair issues and it was working fine for about 3 weeks, now its acting up again.
I watcehd my mechanic change the thermostat and he did "burp" the system and all tht. What is probably the cause of this? The ca has about 200000 km on it
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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Needs burping again? Are you losing any coolant? Gauge readings+loss of heat indicates low coolant/air in system. You may have gasket problem on intake or head or a leak somewhere else?
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I don't seem to be loosing any coolant, im gonna double check tho and I checked for the common signs of a head gasket problem ( dirty oil white smoke etc) and thts all fine. Could it have anything to do with the thermostat tht got replaced like I said it was doing great up untill after 3 weeks I had it replaced I apreciate the response
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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Allright I double checked and there was some coolant gone, I topped it up and drove it and the temperature kept around the halfway mark, still moving up and down but no overheating. I guess I have a leak somewhere eh, so if anyone has to guess where would it be I know the malibu is known for this problem, I did check the oil and stuff again and its clean, the car isnt skipping a beat or nothing so I think (hope) we can rule out the head gasket, also would it be wise to add a liquid sealer maybe to the coolant?
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Drive it some more and keep checkin coolant and fillin to see if it continues to lose it. Get under hood when hot and see if there's a coolant smell.
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Hello again,
Ok ive kept filling it allthough there was hardly any if at all coolant missing and when hot I smelled nothing under the hood or in the car, another weird thing happened though I was driving it yesterday on my way to town the temperature gauge was doing its funky thing again, I could feel cold air flowing so I knew it was going up, but this time it whent all the way up till the overheat light came on, I pulled off the highway and stopped the car immediately and popped the hood, when I opened it I was expecting a lot of heat coming towards me but this wasnt the case, I could touch the engine it was warm but not hot it was warm as to be expected from a 15 minute drive, I squeezed the radiatore hose and again it was warm but not burning hot as to be expected from an overheated engine.
I brought it in to my mechanic shop and he looked and try to figure out wat the problem was. He couldnt tell me he said it might be the head gasket still but he said then the engine would feel a lot hotter. I dont even know what it could be its a mystery to me, and any help is apreciated a lot. Thanks in advance ! Also the gauge seems to be moving more when I have the hot air blowing then when I have the colder air going
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BRUCE JOHNSTON2
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While driving on the freeway, I noticed my temperature gauge dropped to zero. I pulled off and checked my fluid, fans, and belt and all were okay. When I turned it back on, I noticed the gauge would rise slightly and drop back to zero. This happened several times.

When I got to my destination, I used my remote to lock my doors and, although the doors lock and unlock, the horn stopped reporting and the lights did not flash.

On my way home, I noticed that the gauge started working properly. After I shut of the car and remotely locked it, the lights and horn began to work during remote lock/unlock.

I believe there might be a bad connection, maybe, but where would I look that would have both the temperature gauge and remote locking system in common? Computer?
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KEN L
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Hello,

I would try to remove the cluster and unplug the main connector and then re-plug it in to help with any bad connections first. The stepper motor on GM gauges sometimes go out which will mean you will need to replace the motor or get a rebuilt cluster.

Here is the motor

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PXAUGC/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=2carprcom-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004PXAUGC&linkId=d06d317353703d59082360ef2c578c7b

here is a video of a GM cluster getting removed.

https://youtu.be/_HEC44xENxw

I don't think it is a temperature sender becasue the check engine light would be on in most cases.

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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BRUCE JOHNSTON2
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Thanks for the help.

I am not one for coincidences when working with components on a car. That is why I asked. When 2 apparently different circuits fail at roughly the same time, and then without warning, begin working at roughly the same time, I begin to look to see if/what they have in common.

I've been driving my car for almost 3 days now without a failure, so diagnosis is rough and the schematics in my Haynes manual are next to useless.

Thanks for the help and maybe if it begins to fail again, I'll try your suggestions!

Keep up with the good work!
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KEN L
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Please let us know what you find so it will help others.

Cheers, Ken
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Hello I have a 2001 chevy malibu v6 3100 engine check engine light came on and temp gauge stoped working the cooling fans come on and stay on as soon as I start the car I replaced the temp sencor and it does the samething any ideas?
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Dan
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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Hi:
Did you have the computer scanned for trouble codes? If not, go to a nationally recognized parts store and have it done. Most of these places do it for free.

See what is causing the light to be on, and let me kno what you find. Also, Dan, was it the temp sending unit you replaced?

Joe
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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Yes they had it scanned and they said code was bad sending unit changed it and it made no difference
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Dan
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 10:43 AM (Merged)
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Dan:
It sounds like a short or a problem with the Body Control Module (BCM). Just for the heck of it, try to follow the wire from the sending unit back to the firewall. Make sure there is no damage done to the wire.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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My heat gauge keeps going out on me and I have to disconnect the battery everytime it does this so it will work again
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Have the computer scan for code/s though there's none popping up-coud lead you somewhere or you can inspect and test the coolant temperature sensor and its wiring
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