My engine will not crank over - bad starter?

Good evening.

The first thing I would do is charge the battery. After it is charged, load test it with a voltmeter. You should have 12.6 volts.

Then start the engine and check the charge rate. It sounds like you have a charging system issue.

Roy

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-charge-your-car-battery

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-alternator

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-an-alternator

How difficult is that to fix and what kind of cost am I looking at if I take it to a shop?

The first thing is to determine the actual failure. Once that is determined then I can give you a price range.

A diagnostic by a competent shop should run about $25.00.

Roy

Okay thanks. it just needed a new battery.

I have problem starting my Hybrid Tahoe 2008, I charged the battery but still no start, how can I charge the Hybrid Battrey if it is drained out, ... any special proceedure to do that?? also how the starting proceeder goes since no starter for the hybrid cars, .... please help

seeing as this is a hybrid,you cant just jump start it,it has a 12 volt,36 volt and 300 volt system.the systems on a hybrid are different you need a tech 2 and a battery charger,you will need to activate the jump assist.A severely depleted hybrid drive motor battery may not have sufficient energy needed to crank/start the engine. In this case a scan tool may be used to place the accessory power module (APM) in a special operating mode called Jump Assist. The Jump Assist function allows on vehicle charging of the hybrid drive motor batteries using the 12 volt DC vehicle system.

Operating Functions
In Jump Assist the APM converts the 12 volt DC to high voltage (HV) DC. The high voltage DC can then charge the hybrid drive motor batteries. During this mode of operation the APM and vehicle systems may draw up to 80 amps of current from the vehicles 12 volt DC system. An external 12 volt DC battery charger is required during the Jump Assist mode. In order to guarantee a successful engine start, approximately 20 percent state of charge (SOC) in the hybrid drive motor battery is recommended. Refer to Jump Assist . A successful Jump Assist can be expected to take an extended period of time not less than 20 minutes.might just want to take it to the dealer.

When i press remote start i can here a click sound as if the truck is about to start and then it will not start. My DIC shows remote start in the on position as checked. what could be causing this not to start? i have previously posted a question on engine hard to start after refueling and could this be related to this issue? Your expertise will highly be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mo-san

Hey MO-SAN,

If the engine starts without the remote start feature then the remote start module is not working, have you checked the fuses in the PDC? if all are good then the module itself sounds like it has failed.

Here is a guide to check the fuse

https://youtu.be/qrjjmGpXxsI

Let us know what you find

Best, Ken

To my professionals,

Fuses in PDC are good. Found a manual on line for resetting security system, don't know if that's right & gave it a shot , & nothing changed. I'm yet to have it scanned, but will like to know in which part of my electrical components will I find the module & how does it look like. A photo of it will be great / how to replace. Attach is the security manual found.

Thanks,

Mo-san

it is done through the body control module behind lh side of dash only a dealer will be able to program that.

My solution has been resolved by scanning & getting an error code P0496 for Evap. Replaced Vapor Canister Purge Valve , erase the trouble code & my truck is now back to good working state. My engine hard to start after every refueling / my remote start not working are all related to this Evap issue. The replaced Purge Valve was actually leaking when I blow air through it. Thank you 2carpros & HMAC300 for all the help & advises. Hope my feed back helps others too.

You are welcome we are here anytime to help, and any problem solved will help get people back on the road.

wont start and nothing in the car that requires power works. the battery still has charge, but we jumped it off just to be sure we think it might be an anti theft..but we dont know and if it is an anti theft then how do we turn it off.

This sounds like the starter is having problems or the battery needs to be load tested these guides can help us fix it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down these guides and report back.

Thank you we found the problem it was a faulty battery we found out after we checked all the fuses and everything.

2005 Tahoe will act like it wants to start, electronically, gauges turn, beeps, ac, radio, etc., but won't crank. Did this once before about a year ago, but waited a few minutes and it started. No luck this time. Suggestions?

So the starter won't turn the engine over?Do you have a multimeter to do some testing?

This guide can help

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Please run down this guide and report back.

It doesn't make any mechanical noise at all. The gauges all move, lights come on, radio, ac, but the engine doesn't respond. Like something electrical is loose. Don't have a multimeter.

So have you have you had the battery tested and made sure the battery cables are clean and tight?Also you will need a multimeter or a test light at the very least to diagnose this.The security light isn't on or flashing is it?

Well, I got it to start by turning the key backward to reset then forward. Started and stopped it three times. Does that sound like it makes sense?

Sounds like you could have a bad starter or something like that.Something could have cooled down etc and now it works.I would still have your battery tested and make sure the battery cables are clean and tight.Also do you have a test light atleast?

I don't but I'm sure one of my buddies does. The battery is pretty fresh and the connections are tight and clean. Is there a way someone can test the starter if it is working ok? Or does it have to be acting up?

Here is the problem with starters most of the time they dont just die they die slow and mess with you with a no start here and a now start there.You will have to see if you have power at the S terminal at the starter where the purple wire goes with the key in the start position when it doesn't start if you do bad starter.that is way to find the problem.If you don't have power there then we have a differnt issue and will have to trace the problem down.Let me know what you find.

Thanks a lot for the help. I will do that if and or when this happens again. Thanks again.

Your welcome thats what were here for keep me posted.

I am not sure if these two issues are related, but lets see what we can find out.While driving the SUV home I noticed that the blinker would work. No dash light. Nothing. Then the next time I tried to start the SUV it wouldn't turn. Full battery charge, etc.

Hi,

If I understand, nothing is working now. Do things like the headlamps, horn, radio, or anything at all work? Although the battery is fully charged, are the terminals clean and tight? Take a look through this link:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

Next, I attached a picture of the under hood fuse box. I want you to check what are called the mega fuses. These are heavy duty fuses the power many of the smaller fuses and accessories.

Here are a few links to help when checking the fuses. Do me a favor. In addition to just checking the condition of the fuse, confirm there is power to it.


https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

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Please let me know if this helps. Also, let me know if anything is working at this time.

Take care,

Joe

Tahoe will not crank. battery has power, connections are tight when key goes to start position, all the gages go blank and no power, but there is power in the other key positions. The gear selector dose not show what gear it is in on the dash. when I unplugged the ignition switch, the car acted exactly the same. The OBDII scan tool will not communicate with the car it turns on, but when it goes to communicate it says error, check connection. the yellow wire from the ignition switch and the fuse dose not have continuity (fuse i tested was the fuse box on the left side of dash-ignition fuses). tried adjusting the neutral safety switch, no change.
any suggestions?

Welcome to the forum. I looked at the starter circuit for 5.3, all the fuses for that circuit appear to be in the underhood fuse box. The yellow wire goes from the ign switch to the crank fuse underhood. I'd check the circuits at the starter relay, underhood fuse box. Voltage for the coil side of relay is hot all the time. Voltage for coil side of relay goes hot with the key in the crank position. Any testing you do at the relay, make sure the tranny is in park or neutral and the e-brake is set.

As far as communicating with the computer, check for voltage at pin 16 of datalink connector, that terminal should be hot all the time, if it isn't hot, check the cigar fuse circuit. This guide will help https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair and https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing Please run down these guides and report back.

doesn't even click took starter to autozone and they told me it was bad put new one in and still wont even turn over click nothing all the instrument panel function when key is turned forward.

Check IGN C fuse 20amp and crank fuse 10amp and Ign fuse A 40amp if okay Probable causes here could be the park and neutral position switch/ starter relay and ignition switch.

the starter went out so I replaced it. I have broke my ignition because I lost the keys and it was dead when I tried to start it. so I got to jump and it wouldn't roll over or make a sound, but all the lights and everything are working.

Welcome back:

Have you replaced the ignition switch lock? If you have, are you certain it is properly installed and actually turning the ignition switch (electrical portion) to the start position?

Let me know. Also, if you have replaced the key, was it programmed to recognize the new key?

Joe

No, I did not program it to recognize the new key. I am not exactly sure how to do that and yeah when I was turning the key it would turn the power on and then it would like I could feel it going to like the turn on position just it didn't do anything.

Welcome back:

I suspect the immobilizer has it shut down because it doesn't recognize the new key. Try this. Turn the key to the run position (engine off) for about 10 minutes. If the security light is on, it should turn off after that amount of time. If it does, see if it starts.

If the security light is not on, let me know.

If that doesn't do it, you will need specialized tooling to reprogram the system to accept the new key.

Joe

but before I replaced the new ignition the after I replace the starter is when it started doing it before I even touch the new ignition or put the new key or anything in

Welcome back:

Okay if it happened before switch replacement and before the starter replacement, the old starter may have blown a fuse, you may have lost ground, or the neutral/park switch may have failed.

First, the first two pics below show fuses that need checked as well as the starter relay. Check those first.

Second, pic 3 shows the neutral/park switch. See if the engine starts in neutral or any other gear.

Third, pic 4 shows the ground for the starter relay. You need to confirm both the ground and the splice (both circled) are good and there is a ground path for the starter relay.

Here are a few links you may find helpful:


https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse
and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit



https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Check out the diagrams (Below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.

It started doing it after I change the starter but before I did the ignition. so I changed the ignition thinking that was what it was. but I'm going to go ahead and check out and do whatever you said to do and I will get back to you.

Welcome back:

Did the old starter do the same thing? Let me know. Also, let me know the results of the tests I attached in the prior post.

I will watch for your reply and keep my fingers crossed it's something simple.

Take care,
joe

My husband went to start the car last night and when he turned the key there was a pop or click and nothing happened. The car didn't turn on or even turn over and then there was nothing electrical working. We checked some of the fuses and the ones that we checked were fine. What do you think it could be? I would hate to have it towed to a shop for something that we could have fixed ourselves. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Thanks,
Nancy