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BBELK2013
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Alternator was tested and was bad. I changed the alternator, hooked up the jumper cables, and started the vehicle. I let it run about 30 seconds and disconnected the cables. It continued to run about 30 seconds then cut off. I hooked the cables back up and got back in the vehicle to start it up. I smelled a burnt smell inside the cab. I tried to restart the vehicle, but now it won't turn over. Everything else will work, lights, radio, power windows, etc. (That is with the jumper cables hooked up), but the engine won't turn over. I took the battery out and charged it. I put it back in and it showed 12 volts. The engine still wouldn't turn over. After trying for a few seconds, I checked the voltage again and it was 6 volts. I looked under the hood at my connections and about 10 minutes later the voltage was 0. Is this a short in the charging/ignition systems? How likely is it that the plug to the alternator, being 12 years old, is the culprit? Possibly being brittle, was damaged when I removed it.
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Sounds more like you have a bad battery. When it is fully discharged, you'll still read 12.2 volts. To draw a good battery down to 6 volts you would have to have such a huge load on it, like a wrench dropped across the posts. I think it's more likely you weren't making good contact with the meter probes. I've been fixing tvs for 40 years, and that has happened to me all the time.

What I would try next is to get a good battery / clean the connections / or use jumper cables to get voltage on the battery cables, then measure the voltage on the output terminal on the generator. If you find 0 volts there, a fuse or a fuse link wire is burned open. The generator may be working but the current can't get back to the battery. Sometimes Ford likes to tap off that terminal to feed other circuits, and that could explain the no-crank problem.

You didn't say how the old unit failed. If it had two shorted internal diodes, that would have burned open the fuse, but if that was a fuse link wire, there would be a carbon track left behind. It's also possible for those wires to corrode and just partially open up. Either way, the strong current from the new generator trying to charge the battery would finish the job. Usually you won't smell that though.
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YAKIDD
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2002 Ford Escape 6 cyl

let the car idle for 15 minutes, went back to start it, will not start, thought it was battery, changed the battery and same problem, will not start
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Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 AT 7:50 PM (Merged)
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I need more info on this one. Am more than willing to help
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FLOYD44
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I've got a Ford Escape 2002, it was running fine then al of a sudden would not start. The theft light blinks when the doors are shut, when the doors are open the ope door light blinks kindof fast. The battery is completely dead but. When I hook another car up all lights work but all I get is a clicking noise when I go to turn it over. As soon as I unhook the jumpers the battery immediatly goes dead. I'm hoping this is just a simple dead battery issue but the only thing that's wierd is the blinking door ajar lights and the fact that when the key is out the odometer and gauge selector is still on. Any advice or commenet would be great. Thanks
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You havn't got any different keys have you or like had one made. I would try a fresh battery or have that one charged real good. With the theft light flashing like that it won't start it has gone into lock mode and won't start. That is why I was asking about the key deal the key that come with the truck have a chip built into it if anyother is used it will lock it down. And the battery may be the problem(NOS) 8)
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EDDIE PEREZ
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Will not crank, does not spark at battery.
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KEN L
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It sound like the battery has gone bad, here is a guide to help you get it changed out.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-car-battery

Let me know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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WSMITH5
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The shifter is in park but the dash readout says its still in drive and the car wont start. Changing the position of the shifter doesn't change anything. Car wont start when the shifter is in neutral or park. My obd tool wont connect to the computer to check for error codes. The dealer called and they don't know whats wrong and they cant connect to the computer either. When I couldn't start the car I did jumper the battery and wrongly connected the terminals briefly in case that matters here. The battery shows full charge no check lights or alt lights before it died.I drove the car 200 miles parked it the driveway and came back 5 minutes later and it wouldn't start. Any help greatly appreciated. Wayne
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Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 AT 7:51 PM (Merged)
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Are you sure the linkage is connected?
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Sorry I don't know the dealer has the car at the moment.I don't know how to check that myself though.I was dismayed when the dealer called and said they couldnt figure it out and were hoping for more info from me. Could I have damaged the computer when I toched the wrong cables when I jumpered the battery?
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It could have.
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The truck was parked 2 weeks ago and started up fine, now all it does is crank, but does not turn over. We have tried the lights while cranking the motor, but it is not the battery. Do you have any suggestions of what could be wrong?
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Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 AT 7:51 PM (Merged)
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Ok, a final update. The car is fixed the dealer said it was a corroded wire under the battery box. No parts were replaced $194 bill. Man I came very close to buying a new pcm on ebay glad I didnt, I went to the dealer to get the numbers off the pcm and the car was in the lot so just for jiggles I tried to start the car and voila it started right up. Seems like a lot of money for what they fixed but its all labor. Thanks for your kind input guys. Wayne
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ASEMASTER6371
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Start with fuel pressure check. The pump may have failed

Roy
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Glad you got it fixed.

Take care,
Joe
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We know it is getting gas, we have also checked the fuel pump cut off behind kick plate on the passenger side
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What is the pressure? The pump could be working but not giving pressure

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TOTO0913
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I put a new battery in my car but every couple of days it won't start without a jump. I had it checked and the mechanic said it was not the starter or the alternater. What else could cause it not to start?
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Need to have BATTERY DRAIN TEST
NOTE: Amperage draw will vary from vehicle to vehicle depending on equipment package. Compare to a comparable vehicle for reference. No production vehicle should have more than a 50 mA (0.050 amp) draw.
BATTERY DRAIN TEST
1. Ensure junction box/fuse panels are accessible without turning on interior and hood lights. Drive vehicle over 30 MPH for at least 5 minutes. Park vehicle and allow to sit with ignition off for at least 40 minutes to allow electronic modules to power down. Go to next step.
2. Connect a fused jumper wire between negative battery cable and negative battery post. Disconnect negative battery cable from negative battery post, without breaking the jumper wire connection to prevent modules from resetting. Go to next step.
NOTE: It is very important that continuity is not broken between negative battery post and negative battery cable when disconnecting battery cable or connecting ammeter. If continuity is broken, go to step 1.
3. Ensure ammeter is set to read milliamps with at least a 10 amp capability. Connect ammeter between negative battery cable and negative battery post. Remove fused jumper wire. Go to next step.
4. If excessive current draw is present (50 mA or more), pull fuses from battery/central junction box one at a time and note any current drop when each fuse is removed. DO NOT reinstall fuses until test is complete. Go to next step.
5. Check wiring diagrams for any circuits that run from battery without passing through battery/central junction box. Disconnect these circuits if current draw still exists. Repair appropriate circuits as necessary.
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