Car immediately smoking like a barbecue after having been turned on for four years?

Tiny
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  • 1993 OLDSMOBILE 88
  • 3.8L
  • V6
  • 2WD
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  • 110,000 MILES
Originally I stopped driving my car because it would require hitting the gas many times just to get up to 20 or 30 MPH after a red light (and then the easiest method to maintain that speed or faster if I could get it there was cruise control, otherwise I would have needed to keep hitting the gas non-stop every second, and repeat the process after the next red light). I didn't know what was wrong with it at the time, but several car experts have since told me it probably needed a very deep fuel system cleaning. But because I was taking care of a relative with serious, urgent medical issues at the time, I didn't have time to take the car to a mechanic at that time, and just immediately switched to the relative's car instead.

Four years later, I turned on my car for the first time since I had stopped driving it 4 years before, and it immediately started smoking white smoke like a barbecue from the area under the hood close to where the windshield wipers are, approximately in the center between the driver side and passenger side. The smoking was immediate and enormous immediately upon startup. Not after the engine gets hot, but literally instantaneously after the car is turned on. So, I turned it off within a couple of seconds.

This had not been an issue at all before I had stopped driving it 4 years before. The only mechanical issue it had had at that point was just the one with the clogged fuel system above.

So, I'm wondering what happened in the four years that the car was not turned on.

It sounds like something had slowly been leaking in the four years onto something that gets immediately hot the instant the car is turned on.

What do you think the problem is?

I once had a mechanic tell that so long as a car is cold, it is safe to pour cold water on any area under the hood to clean it. (At the time he told me this, there had been a minor steering wheel fluid leak, and he recommended just pouring cold water in the area occasionally when the car was cold, rather than paying for a new rack and pinion. However, a couple of years after that, I had a new rack and pinion installed anyway).

So, with respect to the current barbeque smoking, should I just pour cold water all around that area with the car obviously cold to clean whatever had apparently been slowly leaking for 4 years?

If it's normal for things to slowly leak if not turned on for several years, and it can be resolved simply by cleaning the area, I'd prefer to do that initially, and then immediately take it for an oil change, and see what happens (if there's any oil leakage after the oil change, or any steering wheel fluid I can find after topping up, and driving the car) rather than just initially immediately towing it to a mechanic (the car's mechanic whom I trusted has since retired, and I don't know of anyone else right now whom I trust).

What kind of fluid does it sound like has leaked during the time the car was not turned on? Oil? Steering wheel fluid?

And do you think my idea of possibly flushing the whole area first with cold water and seeing what happens would likely be safe or do you think maybe it's something more serious and I could possibly damage the car if I do that?

Thanks a lot.
Thursday, July 6th, 2023 AT 7:12 PM

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Tiny
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It sounds like it could be the EGR valve that is stuck open, but can you lift the hood when the engine is smoking to see where it is coming from? Valve cover, power steering line? Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem so we can see what's going on.

Here is the valve location and a video on how to test it:

https://youtu.be/DqUCbbKdWf4

Check out the images (below). Please let us know how it goes
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Friday, July 7th, 2023 AT 12:04 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thank you very much for your kind reply.

When I turned on the car for the first time in 4 years, that was actually in the months before Covid, and I've been far from home the entire pandemic, recently returning now.

So, when you requested videos or photos, I vaguely remembered that I might have done something like that in the months leading up to the pandemic in hopes of finding a car expert to help me. So, I went and searched through my computer files, and it turns out I did make some videos back then. And watching the videos now has refreshed my memory:

In addition to the smoking like a barbecue from under the hood in the area near the windshield wiper blades, I remember now that the vehicle was also smoking like a barbecue from the tailpipe after 4 years of standing idle, though if I recall correctly, the smoke starts virtually immediately from the area under the hood, and the smoke from the tailpipe follows shortly afterwards.

Video 1 has less smoke in it than Video 2 but may help you to more precisely figure out where the smoke is coming from. I recommend watching Video 1 indoors with the screen brightness strong and the room lights down to see the smoke well, because it's more faint than Video 2.

Video 2 shows significant smoke coming from the same area under the hood between the engine and the area by the windshield wipers as Video 1. The very first time I turned on the car after 4 years, before making this video, the smoke was even more intense than in this video, literally looking like a barbecue that easily could be seen from 100 ft away.

Video 3 is the smoking like a barbecue from the tailpipe.

Having watched these videos, do you still believe the EGR valve is involved? Using the diagram you provided, I lifted the hood, and the EGR valve solenoid appears to be quite a distance away (is the EGR valve under the EGR valve solenoid in the diagram you provided?) Or could the EGR valve have something to do with the original problem -- the needing to hit the gas repeatedly just to get it up to 20 mph or 30 mph before hitting cruise control -- before the car was then left idle for 4 years?

So based on the videos, do you believe that the smoking like a barbecue from under the hood is oil or steering wheel fluid?

If it is oil, do you believe it is the same problem as the smoke coming out of the tailpipe, or a different problem?

After a car is left idle for 4 years, is it normal to have that smoking under the hood and/or from the tailpipe?

So my hope is to check all the fluids, put in a new battery, drygas (in case any humidity got in over the years), excellent fuel system cleaner, and get this car running again, since I was told by the manager of an auto parts store that the original problem was likely only due to a very dirty fuel system, and that a very good fuel system cleaner could likely have resolved it, had I known. (Do you agree with his assessment?)

Based on these videos, is it still important to do the EGR valve test?(As noted above, I'm not 100% sure of the location of the EGR valve itself relative to the EGR valve solenoid in the diagram, and the video also mentions that they first removed the intake manifold to provide a better view, but is there any video that would show how to first remove the intake manifold on this model or similar GM car?)

Do you believe it would be safe for me to wash away the areas where the smoke was coming from under the hood with cold water before starting the vehicle and then drive it for an oil change? Or do you believe it would be better for it to be towed for an oil change, or try to have someone come and do the oil change in my driveway? Or do you believe that the videos show a more serious problem has developed from its not having been turned on for 4 years, and it should now be immediately towed to a mechanic?

Finally, after all these years, it's kind of dirty under the hood, so I'm wondering if you agree with the mechanic who told me many years ago that, so long as everything is cold, it's safe to gently use a garden hose on anything under the hood. Or do you think a damp rag or damp paper towels are probably safer? (I guess maybe to prevent water from going where it's not supposed to be in case there happens to be any unknown crack anywhere).

Thanks so much again for kindly taking the time to answer my questions!
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Wednesday, July 19th, 2023 AT 1:21 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for the videos. This is because the valve cover is leaking. Here is a generic guide to help you step by step with instructions in the diagrams below to show you how on your car. I would not wash the engine, just replace the gasket.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-valve-cover-gasket

After the repair the oil will take some time to burn off, then you should be okay. The oil from the tailpipe is because the engine is worn out or the PCV valve is stuck open. Please go over this guide:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/blue-smoke-from-engines-exhaust

Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.

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Thursday, July 20th, 2023 AT 10:46 AM

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