Car shut off while driving on the freeway then restarted?

Tiny
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  • 2003 HYUNDAI ACCENT
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Background: the vehicle usually took two tries to start and wouldn’t start if the gas was low (but still above E) and parked with the tank lower than the engine, i.E. Parked pointing uphill.

A few days ago, the car shut off on me on the freeway and wouldn’t restart so I got a tow from the city where I waited for my regular tow company. In that time, the vehicle started again twice but only if I waited about 15-20 minutes. The first time it shut off again while idling after around 5 minutes. I got the vehicle towed then went back to it 36 hours later with a multimeter.

Battery voltage was about 12.67 and the car fired right up. This was around 8am so it wasn’t hot...I’m wondering if it has to do with temperature. My temperature gauge is always right where it should be, between the two dots and this has never changed.

I drove about 1.5 miles to AutoZone, parked and checked the battery again. Still the same. Then I tried to restart the car right away. Nothing. I waited about 20 minutes then it started and I checked the battery’s voltage while revving the engine at 2,500 RPMs = 14.17v.

I did it again with the lights on = 14.7V

Again, with lights and 2,500 RPMs = 14.16v.

Both off = 14.27v.

An employee checked the battery and alternator after I turned the car off and tried to restart it unsuccessfully. The machine said the battery was good, but the alternator was bad. It didn’t make sense because the battery always checked out.

I waited. We tried again later, and it wouldn’t start but then the machine said the battery was bad. Hmmm.

I pulled the battery, popped the caps, noticed the fluid was low, added distilled water and put it on a trickle charger. It charged up to 12.71v. Great!

This morning I put the charged battery in, and the vehicle fired right up on the first try, strong and solidly. An improvement. Turned it off. Fired right back up. Again, same thing. This is before I started driving it at all.

I was able to move the car and park it (drove about a 1/4 mile). Then, hours later moved it and was idling with the A/C on for about 10-15 minutes, then it turned off. Ugh. Why?

Another 15 minutes or so and it started back up but not as strong.

The vehicle never feels like it’s struggling for adequate fuel supply. Please help.
Monday, July 17th, 2023 AT 4:22 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Your description leads me to think the crankshaft position sensor is failing. When they start to fail, heat adversely affects them. When it happens, the engine loses spark and stalls. When it cools, it can work again. Additionally, this can fail without setting a diagnostic code.

Do me a favor. Take a look at this link and let me know if it seems to mirror what you experience:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

If you feel it could be the issue, when it doesn't start, check to see if there is spark to the plugs. Here is a link that explains how it's done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-for-ignition-spark

If there is no spark, this is my first suspect. In that case, let me know if the vehicle has a 1.5L or a 1.6L engine so I can get you the correct directions for replacement.

Let me know.

Take care,

joe
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Monday, July 17th, 2023 AT 8:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi Joe,

I think you were helping me with my 1986 Toyota Pickup and the starter/hot shot wiring test due to the starter not cranking.

Anyway, I bought a new Crankshaft Position Sensor since they’ve inexpensive and after much configuring was able to get the small bolt removed from the old one, but when I tried to remove the sensor, it won’t budge. Is this typical? I’m going to try a pair of pliers tomorrow but wanted to check in.
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Friday, July 21st, 2023 AT 9:46 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

It is very typical. They corrode and can be very difficult to remove. Take a wire brush and brush all around where it's mounted removing any rust or dirt. Then spray it with a good penetrating oil and allow it to sit a while. Gently try turning it left and right to get it to move. Once it starts moving, continue turning it while pulling it outward.

They can break and then it becomes a new problem. Take your time and you should be okay. Note: If you let me know which engine you have, 1.5L or 1.6, I will have a better understanding of the sensor's location.

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, July 21st, 2023 AT 7:35 PM
Tiny
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Gotcha, I’ll do that. It’s the 1.6L.
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Friday, July 21st, 2023 AT 7:51 PM
Tiny
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Joe,

Well, your instinct was 100% correct.

I spent an additional 4 hours trying to get the old sensor out before succeeding. I installed the new sensor then turned the car on and let it idle with the A/C on at level 1 for more than 8 minutes. And the car never shut off!

Then, I drove just shy of 20 miles round trip for dinner plans this evening and had zero issues whatsoever. Success! Hooray!

Thank you for the assistance!
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Saturday, July 22nd, 2023 AT 7:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to know the problem is resolved.

Feel free to come back anytime in the future if you have questions. You are always welcome.

Take care,

Joe
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Saturday, July 22nd, 2023 AT 9:46 PM

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