Code P0343, CAM sensor

Tiny
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I have a bad cam sensor code p0343. If there are four sensors how do I tell which one is the bad one?
Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 8:59 AM

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Tiny
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That code refers to:

"DTC P0343 Intake Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 1".

So it will be the Intake camshaft on the RH (passenger side).

The Circuit high message means that either the sensor has failed, or an open circuit exists (broken wire etc).

Happy hunting!
Jon
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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 1:43 PM
Tiny
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Thanks so much. Haven't checked it out yet but will definitely let you know what happens. Thanks again
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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 7:22 PM
Tiny
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One other question is that exhaust bank one or intake bank one
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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 7:35 PM
Tiny
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Intake!

Let us know how you're doing!

Jon
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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 7:37 PM
Tiny
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I removed that sensor and tried just cleaning it off a little and reinstalled it just to see before I buy the new one. Wouldn't start so I put the computer reader on the car just to make sure and now it's reading 4 codes PO342, PO367, PO348 and PO393. Now I'm really confused. Help thanks
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 5:57 PM
Tiny
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Also, when I first put the reader on it says 7eA and 7e8 I believe and then I click on those and it said the other 4 codes. Makes my head spin. LOL. Thanks again.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:10 PM
Tiny
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Okay,

I don't believe the sensor to be the issue, to me, what you're seeing is a wiring problem. I won't have access to schematics until I get home tomorrow. Then I will help you troubleshoot this further.
Jon
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Thursday, November 28th, 2019 AT 4:49 PM
Tiny
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Thanks so much. Anybody want to buy a nice CTS? LOL !
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Friday, November 29th, 2019 AT 7:52 AM
Tiny
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Hello again Jon, was wondering if you had any more ideas on my camshaft or wiring problem on my car.
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Sunday, December 1st, 2019 AT 3:16 PM
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Hi Pete,

Sorry for the slow reply. I am having a hard time getting to the schematics for your vehicle. I'm trying to sort that out, hopefully soon! With all of the codes you posted, I am beginning to think that the crank sensor may have something to do with this, or perhaps a wiring issue that is common to both of the sensors reporting errors. I'll see if I can have someone post the schematics up here until I get me access fixed.

Jon
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Monday, December 2nd, 2019 AT 7:07 AM
Tiny
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Hello just to help, I was able to dig up this diagram. So you see the plain red wire should be battery voltage, the brown/white wire should be a pulse with your test light while cranking. The pink/black wire should be sensor ground. Hopefully this diagram is correct.
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Monday, December 2nd, 2019 AT 9:07 AM
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All of the cam sensors share the 5 volt reference (Gray wire) and ground circuits (Tan wire). From the description it sounds like one or the other has a bad connection as that would cause codes on all of the sensors. If you have a voltmeter the easiest test would be to connect it to a good ground, Then remove the connector from the sensor you removed. Use a small pin to connect the positive probe to the Gray wire. You should have 5 volts with the key on. Now start moving the wiring that goes to the sensors. You don't want to see the voltage change regardless of how you move the wires. Now remove the pin from that connector and put it back on the sensor. Remove the connector from another cam sensor and connect to that gray wire. You should still have 5 volts. This will show you if that sensor is shorted. To test the ground circuit is a bit harder, you need to connect the meter in the Tan wire and the 5 volts on the Gray wire, Then move the wires like you did before. Again you don't want to see the voltage change or drop out.
Being these are all circuit codes it isn't likely to be the sensors themselves, it is in the wiring to them. Either a broken or corroded wire. Being that you suddenly got all of the new codes after you removed the first sensor suggests it is close to the splice for all of the power or ground wires. I'm thinking it may be the 5 volt circuit as the ground side is shared by other sensors as well and those should be showing problems as well.
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Monday, December 2nd, 2019 AT 9:23 AM
Tiny
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My thoughts exactly, just hard to describe without the diagrams!

Jon
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Monday, December 2nd, 2019 AT 10:36 AM
Tiny
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I have a question I'm purchasing a used throttle body for my 2004 cts and they always have 2 different IDs for the 3.6 12571081 or 12589056 how do I know which one I need thanx
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 4:50 AM
Tiny
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The first part is the original design part. It has been discontinued by GM for a while so rebuilt and used are about the only sources for it, the second is the updated part that replaced it due to the issues they had with the first design.

To use the newer part on your engine you also need to replace the wiring harness connector ( ACDelco #88988585) and use gasket #12581398.
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 8:33 AM
Tiny
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I see that's why I had to splice a new connector on the last one. Thanks a lot, You are a wealth of knowledge!
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 3:30 PM
Tiny
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That would be the reason alright. In that case you want the later part but check the wiring as well, I have seen a couple where the wire splices corroded inside the insulation. What problem are you having?
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 3:51 PM
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Code P2101.
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 3:59 PM
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That's an out of range code, usually from an open circuit. It could also be related to the cam signal issue you were having, as the ground circuit in the PCM is a common buss that they share and if it was lost the TPS would signal out of range.
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 4:07 PM
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This is all new to me. So I'm lost. What do you recommend I do? Please explain in easy terms, LOL. Thanks for all your help though.
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Monday, December 9th, 2019 AT 4:24 PM

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