Bubbling in main radiator hose and coolant reservoir overflowing?

Tiny
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Hi,

I recently changed my thermostat, thermostat housing and radiator cap. I've been having this intermittent issue with massive amounts of air bubbles in my main radiator hose and my overflow reservoir completely overflowing and losing a lot of coolant. I should note that I was fiddling with my ignition timing between all this and I'm afraid I really messed something up a blew a head gasket. I posted another question about this in your system, not sure if you can reference that for more details. The truck is not over heating and and the last few days it has been running pretty well. So, I got no clue what's going on. Is it possible I just did a bad job at burping my system and my car is still purging air? I have an exhaust gas kit and a radiator pressure test kit too. I'll start taking some tests soon.
Thursday, August 10th, 2023 AT 6:55 PM

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Tiny
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I think you are correct that the engine has a blown head gasket, this guide can help you with the test:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Let's check the engine oil condition as well. Please go over this guide as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/recognizing-the-symptoms-understanding-a-blown-head-gasket-in-your-vehicle

Please go over these guides and get back to us.
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Friday, August 11th, 2023 AT 11:52 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Well, I hope that's not the case but yeah, it's a very real possibility. So far, the engine has passed a few of these tests. I did the chemical test and detected no exhaust gas. The liquid maintained its dark blue color. The engine oil is a little on the dirty side but still very clear and not milky. I took off the oil cap and there was no mayonnaise like substance on the bottom. Also, no signs of oil in the coolant. While running the engine with the radiator cap off, I used a funnel to hold some of the expanding coolant. There were some bubbles for about 5 minutes then the bubbles stopped, and the coolant quickly rushed back in the radiator. After that no more bubbles appeared. I hope that I just had excess air in the system after replacing the thermostat. I also put my old radiator cap back on and drove the car around. The overflow reservoir is not getting excessively high like it was with the new cap. Although my reservoir tank keeps dipping below the cold fill line. So, I don't know, still leaking I suppose. But it's much better than it was before I replaced the thermostat and housing. I may need to take it to a pro for the other tests listed in the video. If it is a head gasket, is this something I could do? I know it's a big procedure.
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Friday, August 11th, 2023 AT 2:30 PM
Tiny
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Update: I did a radiator pressure test today. It held 12 psi pretty strong for about 5 minutes, then took about 15 minutes to drop 1 psi. I heard lots of different opinions on how long my system should hold steady pressure so curious to see what others have to say about the results.
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Friday, August 11th, 2023 AT 7:25 PM
Tiny
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If the engine was cold when you did the test then yes you have a leak which can be internal, did you see any coolant on the ground after the test?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-is-leaking-coolant

Replacing the head gaskets is a major job but like my pops says, it is only nut and bolts so if you want to give it a go, I can provide instructions. Please let me know.
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Saturday, August 12th, 2023 AT 9:59 AM
Tiny
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Unfortunately, I couldn't find any external leaks off the bat. The test was done stone cold. But I wasn't able to see the radiator housing leak until I started replacing the thermostat. So, I'll do another test today and see if I can find anything. Thanks for the link, very helpful. Curious to check out the weep hole and freezer plugs. How long should your system stay pressurized before there's some drop in psi? I got to imagine every system has some loss so wondering what the threshold is.

It is just nuts and bolts! I like that. Hopefully it doesn't come to disassembling my engine but appreciate the offer for help.

One last question, are there instances where an exhaust gas test of the cooling system will still pass (liquid stays blue) but there's still a blown head gasket?
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Saturday, August 12th, 2023 AT 10:40 AM
Tiny
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I found my other leak, well found where it's dripping at least. Is pooling up around the edge of my oil pan. I'm assuming it's not coming from the oil pan itself. Hopefully. I'll investigate a bit more this evening, but it's a start. Maybe it's coming from the water pump? That's my first guess at least. Attached a picture.
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Saturday, August 12th, 2023 AT 4:12 PM
Tiny
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Looks like the leak may be coming from the water pump. Took a video, it zooms in on the potential leak at the end of the video. It has a green stain around the gasket. As a side problem, it seems like there's more oil than there should be as well near and around the oil pan area. Also added an image of this.
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Saturday, August 12th, 2023 AT 5:58 PM
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Thanks for the video, it helps. It does look like the water pump is leaking, I don't think it will cause air to enter the system though. The oil leak doesn't look too bad, it could be the rear main. Let me know what happens after you change out the water pump.
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Monday, August 14th, 2023 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Thanks Ken.

I may take my truck in to confirm if the head gasket is blown before I do anything else. I hope the air is getting in through the leak, I've heard that's possible since when the liquid escapes, that volume has to displaced with something. But, we'll see. I may just sell the truck for parts if the gasket is blown. Appreciate the help.
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Monday, August 14th, 2023 AT 2:03 PM
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Sounds good, please let me know what they find.
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Tuesday, August 15th, 2023 AT 8:34 AM

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