Battery wires

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On the schematic you posted, is it showing a pink and grey jumper between the two relays.
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Saturday, January 22nd, 2022 AT 5:16 PM
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I was very confused, so I was looking to figure out something and ran across this. This shows a solid yellow from starter relay to starter relay fuse.
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Saturday, January 22nd, 2022 AT 7:34 PM
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Hi,

I'm not familiar with the schematics you have. I went back and looked up the manufacturer's schematic and attached them below. Normally, I don't use these because they are more confusing. However, if you look at the OEM schematic below, it shows the same as what my original one said. Yellow is from fuse C (40 amp) and goes to relay 2. From there, it goes to a pink/gray wire to relay 1. Next, it travels through a yellow/gray wire to the starter motor. The yellow/gray wire is the trigger wire to engage the starter motor. The pink/gray wires connection is indicated with a dashed line. In many cases, the position of one internal switch (relay in this case) will affect the position of another as between two relays. Such switches are called ganged switches and are symbolized by connecting them with a dashed line.

Not being there with you makes it much more difficult. However, all I have is the manufacturer's schematics. That is what I need to go with. If you have a jumper between the yellow wire to relay 2 and direct to relay 1, that is usually an indication that someone had installed a remote starter system. I can't guarantee it, but that is what I suspect. That would also explain why the wire/fuse was loose and fell out. Chances are when it was removed, they weren't too gentle with it. Again, that is only my theory. I wish I was there to help.

Let me know if this helps you in any way.

Take care of yourself,

Joe

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Saturday, January 22nd, 2022 AT 10:02 PM
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Hello, okay, so it’s not jumped from the actual “relay” at t20. Where the wire yellow wire hooks to relay 2 it jumps to f06 starter relay which is an orange 40 fuse.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:07 AM
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I stayed up late looking through every schematic Chilton has, like what you have it shows it going from the battery to relay 2. But fuse f06 starter relay fuse I cannot find which wire runs to it other than what I just showed, and they have run that to it. And you don’t understand how much I appreciate everything you have helped me with.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:37 AM
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And I’m sorry I was lost earlier in this because I thought the starter relay was actually just that mega fuse instead of the relay, but two wires can’t go in the same slot on relay 2 can they?
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:42 AM
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This is about as good as I can get. I marked where the wire jumps from relay 2 to the starter relay fuse at f06.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 8:09 AM
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Hi.

Do me a favor. Check the yellow wire from F6 to see if it has power. I suspect it isn't powered because of the missing link in the battery power disconnect box.

I guess it's possible that they may have run the fusible link to another fuse (F6) then to the relay. If there isn't power, we need to get power to f6. Then it will go to the relay with the wire you showed me. I'm just not sure why the schematics are different.

Pic 3 shows the two relays, and the green fuse indicates the starter fuse (40 amp). Is that where the yellow wire is running from to relay 1?

Joe
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 1:39 PM
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It was miscellaneous battery fuse schematic. And the yellow wire is jumped between relay 2 and the regular starter fuse.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 3:08 PM
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How could I get power from the battery unit to the orange fuse with it still jumping to relay 2?
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 3:48 PM
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If the yellow goes to the fuse, from there (since there is a jumper) it should go to the relay.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 4:50 PM
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There is only one spot for a wire at the fuse which is jumped from the fuse to relay 2. Can I run the wire from the battery to the fuse and have the jumper coming off of that to my relay?
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 4:58 PM
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Since there is a 40-amp fuse in the battery quick connect box and basing it on what the wiring schematics are showing me, I would run it from the battery box to the relay. The yellow jumper doesn't show up in any of my schematics, but if there is a short, it should cause the 40-amp in the battery box to fail. Try it that way and let me know if it works.

I attached a pic below showing where the 40-amp fuse is I'm referring to.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 5:46 PM
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Okay, I tried to splice the wires into the regular fuse, but I’ll just disregard the f06 fuse and go straight to the relay. I’ll let you know how it goes.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:13 PM
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Yes, going straight to the relay didn’t work.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:32 PM
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Thanks for all of your help.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:32 PM
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Did you try to the fuse?

Joe
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 6:49 PM
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I did. I’m missing something somewhere.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 7:01 PM
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When you applied power to the relay, was it via pin 30? See pic below. There are two options for pin layout, but it's easy to tell which you have by just looking.

Also, could you give me the last 8 digits of the VIN number? I need to see if there is something different with your vehicle and this may help.

Take care,

Joe

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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 7:24 PM
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Jt105735 and yes it went into the number 40 connecter.
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Sunday, January 23rd, 2022 AT 7:46 PM

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