Battery drains overnight?

2007 CHRYSLER SEBRING
130,000 MILES • 2.4L • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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PAUL H PRIOR
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A year ago I bought the listed above that the battery drains overnight. I put a new battery in and had all the fuse box tests but didn't help and my mechanic regretfully gave up. So I took it to the dealer and they said it was the PMC, so I replaced that with no luck. Please can someone help me?
Sep 18, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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ASEMASTER6371
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Good afternoon.

I will attach a guide for you to follow for the draw. You will need a voltmeter for this procedure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-dead-overnight

Lets test the battery as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Roy
Sep 18, 2019 at 1:46 PM
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Hello and welcome to 2CarPros. Just to jump in, if the repair at the dealer did not fix your concern then you need to go back so that they can figure out what happened? You should have a warranty on your repair.
Sep 18, 2019 at 11:45 PM
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PAUL H PRIOR
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I got a long list of things to try from Roy, Thank You I'm going down the list now. The dealer wanted $2,000,00 to put the PMC in so I bought it online and had my mechanic put it in for a total of $345.00. so I can't go back to dealer for it but thanks for the advice anyways. I would gladly send anyone $100.00 for the information I need to finally get this lemon fixed. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated !!! I've been stuck on this for one year!
Sep 19, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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I would start by performing the checks in the guide. It will pinpoint the circuit for you and once you tell me the fuse that is causing the drain, I can guide you from there.

Roy
Sep 19, 2019 at 11:36 AM
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CARINFONAIF
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Electrical problem
2003 Chrysler Sebring 6 cyl Automatic 78k miles

I have a 2003 Sebring that is having problems with the battery draining to zero power. I just got a new battery installed and they checked the alternator at the same time--it was fine. I don't leave anything on (radio, etc.) when I turn off the car. What should I check first to fix this problem? Could it be the fuses themselves, perhaps? I have extremely limited funds, so am looking for the most likely--and cheapest--fix possible. Thanks.

Add'l Info: Takes about 5 days from full industrial charge to begin showing symptoms, but then will go completely dead within hours--overnight, while I'm working, etc.

Already Tried:
New battery. Extra charging (industrial machine). Turning off radio. Unplugging all chargers in cigarette lighter ports.
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:28 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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I need you to check if there is a constant draw on the battery when everything is off. Here is a how to for checking:

https://www.2carpros.com/first_things/why_is_my_car_battery_dead_over_night.htm

Let me know what you find. IF there is a draw, remove one fuse at a time to see when the draw stops. Then you will know aprox where the problem is coming from. Also, I understand the alt is good, however, it can show good, have a bad diode, and drain the battery when the car is off.

Let me know what you find.
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CARINFONAIF
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Well, this is interesting, in a perverse sort of way. Went through the whole checklist (with the exception of checking the alternator again) and sequentially removed the fuses both from the box under the hood and the one inside the driver's side. I got a strong light on the test light for every one, except these two:

#5 - light went on, then quickly faded. This is a 10-amp red that runs the "power door lock and door lock arm/disarm switches; vanity, reading, map, rear seating, ignition and truck lights; illuminated entry; radio; power antenna (which I don't have); data link connector; body control module; and power amplifier." This sounds like the key to the problem.

#6 - Once I removed this fuse, the test light slowly "pulsed" brighter and dimmer, but never went out completely. This is a 20-amp yellow that runs the daytime running lights (Canada). I'm U.S. and I'm not even sure if I have daytime running lights. Don't know what year it became mandatory.

Now, I don't really know what a "data link connector," body control module," or "power amplifier" is. But here's a possibility or two--see what you think:

In late June I had a local stereo shop connect an iPod cable. They had to hard wire it because there's no auxiliary plug on the factory radio setup. I didn't have any problems for weeks thereafter (until early September), but maybe a wire has shaken loose? I haven't noticed any sound changes, however.

Also, because I have one cigarette lighter auxiliary port in the dash and one in the console, I put them to good use, keeping various items charged (GPS, iPod, etc.) on a frequent but not constant basis. Maybe there's something amiss with those systems. I stopped leaving things plugged in, however, and have still experienced the drain. So if it's that it would have to be the wiring I would think, and not the port itself.

If it were you, what would your next step be? Thanks for the tips. I'm learning more than I ever wanted to know about cars!
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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"I'm learning more than I ever wanted to know about cars!" LOL If you're like me and can't afford to pay others to do things, that is the way it goes. Hell, I built my own house from ground up. Had some help along the way to show me how to do things. It took 3 years, but I did it all. Even dug over 100 ton of stone out of the surface of the ground with a pick, shovel and a sledge hammar to stone case the house. Thankfully I live in the PA mountains where stone is everywhere. My 80 year old father taught me the trade. Picture a 5'2" Italian man still speaking broken English after being here almost 60 years yelling at me because I couldn't keep up with him laying stone. He was 5 scaffolding bucks high and seemed to forget, I was the one going up and down carring the stone and cement, mixing it... I don't even like to remember it. I thought I was going to die.

Regardless, learn as much as you can in life. You sound like a young man. My dad always told me to do that, and now I thank him for it.

Now, I'll shut up and get back to the problem at hand. Yes, I think you found the problem. Based on your description, I think I would have the stereo shop retrace their work or at least remove it to see if that changes things. It almost sounds as if power is backfeeding through the amp and stereo to ground. That will kill your battery over time.

Keep in touch. I would like to know if this is the problem. And, sorry for being so wordy.

Joe
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:28 PM (Merged)
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CARINFONAIF
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Haha, I feel your pain and can see the image of your father cracking the whip. However, I'm pretty much the antithesis of a young man--I'm a mature woman, divorced after leaving a 20-year marriage. All that time I did a lot of things--including owning the power tools, the kitchen, the child raising and the yardwork. But cars were his job...er, his job to take to the shop, hah, on the way to the golf course. Learning never hurt anyone, including me, and I appreciate the counsel. It's always good to be alive.

I'll definitely start at the stereo shop this next weekend. Thanks. Very much.
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Sorry about that. I'm coming up on the 20 year mark myself. I own the responsibility or the power tools, the yard, the cars, helping in the house, the kids, and holding down two jobs. I'm a teacher too. Funny, I feel like you and I am a man. (LOL)

Let me know how things work out, and again sorry. I never know who I'm speaking with.

Joe
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CARINFONAIF
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No worries--life is funny, isn't it. You have a full plate, for sure. I'm even more grateful for the help in that case.
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Hello! I have a 2002 sebring. The battery will not charge. I have replaced the battery, the alternator, the belts, the battery cables. My mechanic is stumped. The voltages are okay- just will not charge battery. Thank you for your help!

Cindy
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Glad to help. Let me know how things work out for you.
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RASMATAZ
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The voltages are okay- just will not charge battery.

Then there's no problem if the voltages are okay-my suggestion here is have the computer field generation driver of the alternator checked out
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To Carinfonaif: Have same problem, worse when I don't use the car for a day. Even when everything is off so I unhook the battery's ground cable (easiest to get to), When done with the car. Noticed, in the dark, when touching the cable to ground, a spark, indicating power drain. Here's the cheapest way to fix it, if you cannot find or until you find the source: Interrupt the ground wire from the battery, attach to a simple on/off switch, then attach another cable (same gauge/thickness as batt cable) to ground/car frame. Get a good heavy duty switch, insulate it from touching car frame. Wanna get fancy? Run wires to under dash mount. [Well, you wanted cheap].

I'm liking JACOBANDNICKOLAS idea about a bad diode in the alternator. Gonna have it checked.
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Here is a guide to help you check the diodes

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-alternator

Great addition to this thread! Please feel free to help out whenever you are on the site :)

Cheers, Ken
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MICHAEL38
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The car battery wont stay charged. I had the battery checked and was told that it was charging. The battery is less than 2 years old.
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You may have an open circuit somewhere. Here is what I would do. You will need a digital voltmeter for the test.

Remove both battery cables from the posts. Check and record the battery voltage. Now attach both battery cables back on, make sure that they are tight. Check the battery voltage again. If you have more than 0.1 volt difference, you have an open circuit that is draining your battery.
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I have 2001 sebring 6 cyl 3.0 100,000 miles.
My battery slowly drains down, I checked voltage across battery terminals and read 13.75 while idling.
turn off motor and hours later it will vary somewhere at 12.3 to 9.0 or even zero volts. I jump the car off and back up to 13.75 volts. Sometimes the drain is fast or it may take all night. Any help will be appreciated.
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MIKE H R
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have the altinator checked , the internal regulator could be grounding out. if that is ok check for battery drain with the car off. You can do this by taking one fuse out at a time noticing if there is any diference in the viltage drain.
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After sitting for 3-4 days, the battery is dead. If I drive every day or two, no problems. I'm wondering what the normal draw is when the car is parked. I am measuring about 200-500 mA after lights etc. time out. Is this normal?
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No, its not normal-try 30ma at the most-your too high-track the short circuit
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It appears the ASD fuse (20 amp) is causing at least 120 mA of the draw. What does this fuse control? Should it be providing any current when parked?
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battery keeps going dead after 2 days of sitting had the battery replaced twice in 3 months . the garage had the car for 3 weeks .the car starts if you use it ever other day but seat 2 days or longer it goes dead please help thanks dave
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Apparently it has a parasitic draw from something now shutting down.

This guide will help

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-dead-overnight

There is a procedure for finding a battery draw like that.

You will need a digital ammeter and a jumper wire with clips on the ends to do this.
First rig any door switches so you can have a door open without triggering the interior lights and unplug the hood light. Remove one battery cable and attach the meter in series between the battery cable and battery post. Take the jumper wire and also attach it the same way. Leave the jumper wire on for at least 10 minutes to expire all the automatic timers. Now remove the jumper wire and read the meter. Anything over 50ma is too much draw. The way you locate this is to start removing fuses one at a time until the meter drops to normal level. This will be the circuit with something staying on. Determine what components are part of that circuit and check them individually until the problem is isolated.
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PAMELA MAHOWALD
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There is battery drainage after the door is locked either by a fob or with a key. The fuse has been identified that controls the security system , etc. Of all the things affected by this fuse, the obvious thing is the arming of the security system by locking the driver door.

Is there a way to disarm the security system and leave in tack the door lock by key or fob?
Pam
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM (Merged)
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Hello,

It sounds like the BCM is having an issue which acts as the security system as well probably holding the locks down until the battery is dead.

I would try removing the electrical connectors from the BCM to see if the battery drains down. here is the location.

This guide can help as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-dead-overnight

I would remove it and look for water damage.

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find.

Cheers, Ken
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM (Merged)
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PAMELA MAHOWALD
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Ken, thank you very much for wanting to help with this problem.
By removing the BCM will I still be able to use my key to lock/unlock and my fob to do the same? Will its removal affect any other functions like horn, lights, etc. which seem to work with the door lock now? Do I need to replace or permanently remove it?
I like the diagram and know where the fuses are at the left end of the dashboard. Do not understand the position of the BCM in relation to the panel of fuses. And what does the plug that is shown pulled out from steering column do and is it necessary to remove it? Is it relevant here at all?
Thank you again for your help.
Pamela Mahowald
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Hi Pamela

You can remove the BCM, this is just to test if the battery is not draining down. You cannot drive it or do anything accept let it sit to check the battery.

Here are the fuse panel diagrams you requested and a guide to help check them:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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PAMELA MAHOWALD
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Well, this is a lot of information that I could not get until now. Thank you so much. I hope we can solve this problem. I know from the internet that Sebring's have a bad wrap for battery draws, if that is really true?
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I have not noticed anything more than other cars. Does the car have a CD player? Sometimes the CD can get stuck causing the battery to drain down.
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